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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Bellevue WA
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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On Wed, December 24, 2008 2:43 pm, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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I think the ones that popped on my skis was due to the head being
pulled...like an umbrella in a windstorm. I used aluminum rivets
because I didn't want to use the much stronger steel, which would
have crushed the UHMW..
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There are a number of UHMW formulations. I think the one you want to use is called:
Ultra Poly HVOS
High Visibility Orange with Silicone added
Crosslinked for enhances abrasion resistance and lower coefficient of friction.
I'm not sure, but Ultra Poly HVOS might be a product name specific to UltraPoly Brand.
<http://www.ultrapoly.com/Pages/pr_reference.html>
I think Crown Plastics is one of the bigger manufacturers. You can phone them and find
more out about the blends they've concocted.
<http://www.crownplastics.com/FAQ.htm>
I think the snoboards with the orange bottoms are the Ultra Poly HVOS. They are really
slick, tough and resist abrasion from accidental rock strikes and gravel.
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Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
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Fox5flyer Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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Good post, Paul. Thanks.
I was at a friend's house tonight and they bought their daughter a new snow
board. I guess it goes without saying that I had a real good look at that
thing. It was about 4.5' long by 12" wide with some real tough material
(UHMW?) for a very slippery friction surface. I looked at those things and
I just don't see any reason whey they wouldn't make an excellent base for a
good set of skis. I mean, those things are very well made and tough! I'm
definitely going to keep my eyes open for a matching pair of used, but good
quality boards for a beta test. I'm getting jazzed about this!
Hey, everybody. Have a great Christmas Holiday. I'll pop a couple shots of
JagerMeister for all of you.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress."
- Joseph Joubert
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 2778 Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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Thanks Paul-
I just looked at those sites and emailed them for more info. The HVOS
sounds like just the ticket.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Paul Franz - Merlin GT wrote:
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<paul(at)eucleides.com>
On Wed, December 24, 2008 2:43 pm, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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> I think the ones that popped on my skis was due to the head being
> pulled...like an umbrella in a windstorm. I used aluminum rivets
> because I didn't want to use the much stronger steel, which would
> have crushed the UHMW..
There are a number of UHMW formulations. I think the one you want
to use is called:
Ultra Poly HVOS
High Visibility Orange with Silicone added
Crosslinked for enhances abrasion resistance and lower
coefficient of friction.
I'm not sure, but Ultra Poly HVOS might be a product name specific
to UltraPoly Brand.
<http://www.ultrapoly.com/Pages/pr_reference.html>
I think Crown Plastics is one of the bigger manufacturers. You can
phone them and find
more out about the blends they've concocted.
<http://www.crownplastics.com/FAQ.htm>
I think the snoboards with the orange bottoms are the Ultra Poly
HVOS. They are really
slick, tough and resist abrasion from accidental rock strikes and
gravel.
--
Paul A. Franz
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_________________ Lynn
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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Bellevue WA
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:35 am Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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On Thu, December 25, 2008 1:41 am, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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Thanks Paul-
I just looked at those sites and emailed them for more info. The HVOS
sounds like just the ticket.
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You're welcome! :}}
Did you see some of the blends with epoxy? You can then bond layers to it or bond it
to a foam core. You might ask them about bonding to the HVOS.
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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 2778 Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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I don't think at this point that I need to or want to bond anything
to it, but I'm not done "imagineering" either. : )
Right now I'm heading out to the shop to do some tubing bending.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 596+ hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote:
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<paul(at)eucleides.com>
On Thu, December 25, 2008 1:41 am, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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> Thanks Paul-
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> I just looked at those sites and emailed them for more info. The HVOS
> sounds like just the ticket.
You're welcome! :}}
Did you see some of the blends with epoxy? You can then bond layers
to it or bond it
to a foam core. You might ask them about bonding to the HVOS.
--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: UHMW-PE |
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Deke and for you guys that are looking at using the snowboard for skis... here is some info in the doc attach. that will explain the sizing of snowboards for personal use. They can be had new on eBay for about $200us... not all snowboards are the same if bought used... many suppliers have more than one mfg. that they get them from. Thus different processes are used each mfg... the only thing the same is the name only!
Overall snowboards should make good skis... just be careful how you acquire them and know what materials are used in the mfg. process...
R.D.(Ron) Leclerc
CH701 Plans(Scrap) Builder #7-6699
Porsche Power Geared Redrive
Winnipeg, MB Canada
infow(at)mts.net
12/25/2008 10:46:59 AM
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Good post, Paul. Thanks.
I was at a friend's house tonight and they bought their daughter
a new snow board. I guess it goes without saying that I had a
real good look at that thing. It was about 4.5' long by 12" wide
with some real tough material (UHMW?) for a very slippery
friction surface. I looked at those things and I just don't see
any reason whey they wouldn't make an excellent base for a good
set of skis. I mean, those things are very well made and tough!
I'm definitely going to keep my eyes open for a matching pair of
used, but good quality boards for a beta test. I'm getting
jazzed about this! Hey, everybody. Have a great Christmas
Holiday. I'll pop a couple shots of JagerMeister for all of you.
Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 402+ TT
"The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but
progress." - Joseph Joubert
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