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lenleg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

Trying to find the most economical place to get my commercial rating ... anyone know of good rates for complex instruction?

 

 Len

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ronschreck

Joined: 04 Aug 2006
Posts: 192
Location: Gold Hill Airpark, NC (NC25)

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

There is a guy at Siler City (5W8).  I  think his name is Oscar.  Call the FBO and ask Karen to put you in touch  with him.

  

 Smokey

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Jsumakeris

Joined: 30 Dec 2008
Posts: 2
Location: Cary, NC

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Retractable Rental

I am a member of The Wings of Carolina Flying club in Sanford, NC (TTA) for about a year and I highly recommend the club.  It's a real active club that is very professionally run with great instructors at a fantastic facility:  6500' runway, AWOS and ILS at a non-controlled field.



If you're looking to rent complex aircraft, the club has two IFR Mooney M20J's.  The rates vary according to fuel cost, but the last rate I have for the Mooney was $139.06, wet while the instruction was $28 for advanced training.  They also have a simulator elite that may help you control some costs, but I'm guessing on that.  Also RDU and Fayetteville are very close by - relatively speaking - so you needn't go far to get into controlled airspace.  The club has monthly fees and requires posting a deposit if you want to rent that is specific to the type of plane you rent (C152, C172, PA28 or M20J).



Good luck to you with whichever route you take,

Joe

lenleg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

Thanks for the info Joe.

 

 Len

 

   

 

   

 

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randy(at)djdist.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at)  704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you  know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a  commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs  the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex  plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG  Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus  fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He  runs the Concord branch.  

 

Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte,  NC  28208

800-585-4126

  

 djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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bill(at)repucci.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

Randy,  

   

Don’t you also need a “High performance endorsement”?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement.  

   

Please correct me if I’m wrong.  

Bill  

       

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental  

  

  

     

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.    

    



 Randy Utsey

 D.J. Distributing Co.

 1429 Bryant St.

 Charlotte, NC  28208

 800-585-4126  

    

   

    

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

 www.djdist.com  

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From: lenleg(at)aol.com (lenleg(at)aol.com)   

    

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM  

    

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental  

    

   

    

Thanks for the info Joe.

 

 Len  

    

   

    

   

  

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?  Going to be a CFI one day?



-Stormy



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:

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Randy,  

   

Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement.  

   

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  

Bill  

       

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

 To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental  

  

  

     

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.    

    



 Randy Utsey

 D.J. Distributing Co.

 1429 Bryant St.

 Charlotte, NC  28208

 800-585-4126  

    

   

    

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

 www.djdist.com  

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From: lenleg(at)aol.com (lenleg(at)aol.com)    

    

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)    

    

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:57 AM  

    

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental  

    

   

    

Thanks for the info Joe.

 

 Len  

    

   

    

   

  

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randy(at)djdist.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

Hi Bill, not called for in 61.129 / just retracts,  flaps and a cs prop

 

Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte,  NC  28208

800-585-4126

  

 djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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flyguy

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 325

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: Retractable Rental

You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ?  oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?  Going to be a CFI one day?

-Stormy

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:

 [quote]   

Randy, 

Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Bill 

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.  

Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte, NC  28208

800-585-4126

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card?!?!  Get out of town.



I want what they're smoking.  They must have broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.

 

-Stormy



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com (bill28104(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote] You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ?  oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno



 

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

 



So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?  Going to be a CFI one day?



-Stormy



 

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:

  



[quote]   

Randy, 

  

Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement.  

  

Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Bill 

    

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental 



 

   

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.   

  



Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte, NC  28208

800-585-4126

  

 

  

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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flyguy

Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 325

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

We all need a good 'rant' before yr. end & that qualifies...shear stupidity, but thats the FAA for you.  (Foolish Anal Arsholes).  Hope to seeya Sat. if the runway dries out.  these 50k winds today should help...

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card?!?!  Get out of town.

I want what they're smoking.  They must have broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.

-Stormy

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com (bill28104(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]   You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ?  oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)> 

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM 

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?  Going to be a CFI one day?

-Stormy

  On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:

  [quote]   

Randy, 

Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement. 

Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Bill 

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.  

Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte, NC  28208

800-585-4126

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

That will depend on the status of our house guests (honeymooners) as well as the runway.  Miriam is always up for BBQ at Carthage.  And I need the excuse to fly some before February...  50 kt winds are blowing tree branches all over the runway.

 

I can't get my mind around how a pilot who can hold station on lead, perform cross-unders, eschelon turns, pitch-outs and re-joins could not be able to perform any commercial-test maneuvers with ease, but maybe.  I feel better knowing they are "doing it for the children."  The sky would just plain fall in without the FAA, wouldn't it.

 

Maybe I'm ranting because Lowe's sold out of the close-out-sale Pergo flooring I wanted for my game room before I bought enough.  Any excuse for a rant will do.



-Stormy



On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:30 PM, bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com (bill28104(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]We all need a good 'rant' before yr. end & that qualifies...shear stupidity, but thats the FAA for you.  (Foolish Anal Arsholes).  Hope to seeya Sat. if the runway dries out.  these 50k winds today should help...

 

 

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM



Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

 



You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card?!?!  Get out of town.

 

I want what they're smoking.  They must have broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.



-Stormy



 On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM, bill crothers <bill28104(at)yahoo.com (bill28104(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]   You able to spring free Sat. for BBQ?  oh, BTW, Len needs comm. for formation airshows, neww stricter rules...Reno



 

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)> 

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)



Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:05:35 PM 

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental



 

So, Len -what use do you have in mind for the commercial rating?  Going to be a CFI one day?



-Stormy

  On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Bill Repucci <bill(at)repucci.com (bill(at)repucci.com)> wrote:



  

  [quote]   

Randy, 

  

Don't you also need a "High performance endorsement"?  Meaning something greater than 200 HP, like a Stearman, C-182, etc.  Some of the Moonies and Arrows have 200 HP engines so they will only work for the complex, not the high performance endorsement.  

  

Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Bill 

    

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:51 AM

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental 



 

   

Len, another approach is to call Larry Morris (at) 704-786-6880. He is a designated examiner out of Concord and would let you know what he would requre for the rating with your experience.  Getting a commercial rating for your purpose is a little different from someone who needs the rating for a paying flying job.  You need 10 hrs of dual in a complex plane plus take the checkride in the same.  You can rent the C172 RG Cutlass at Concord through www.flycarolina.com for $93.00 an hr plus fuel and instructor.  Contact for that is Aubrey (at) 704-788-9333.  He runs the Concord branch.   

  



Randy Utsey

D.J. Distributing Co.

1429 Bryant St.

Charlotte, NC  28208

800-585-4126

  

 

  

djdist(at)bellsouth.net (djdist(at)bellsouth.net)

www.djdist.com

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N777TY

Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 69
Location: Charlotte, NC

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

comm rating not required to fly formation... but is required for getting compensated   apparently the FAA considers getting free fuel and hotel rooms at airshows as compensation.... 

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental

You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card?!?!  Get out of town.

I want what they're smoking.  They must have broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.

-Stormy

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

Ah, now I get it.  Fuel, hotel rooms, show girls  - they're on to you, Len.  Time to re-negotiate the airshow contracts until you get that commercial rating.  Don't forget to report that stuff on your form 1040 

 

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Rad Z <microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com (microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote] comm rating not required to fly formation... but is required for getting compensated   apparently the FAA considers getting free fuel and hotel rooms at airshows as compensation.... 

 

 

   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)>

To: rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com (rvsoutheast-list(at)matronics.com)

 Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:13:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Retractable Rental



You have got to be kidding me... "they" think a commercial rating adds something relevant to the qualifications already required to get an FFI card?!?!  Get out of town.

 

I want what they're smoking.  They must have broken out the good stuff before the inauguration.



-Stormy



  





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lenleg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

Thanks Randy ... will look into that.

 

 Len

 

   

 

   

 

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lenleg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: Retractable Rental

Just formation !!

 

   

 

   

 

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