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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

I'm about to buy the Zenith tool kit for use on a CH-801 and I have a couple of questions.

Are the recommended quantities of Clecos sufficient for the entire build?

Those of you that skipped the tool kit from Zenith and sourced your own tools, do you feel you saved a decent amount of money doing so?

Thanks guys.

Jake Crause
Pooler, GA
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

No such thing as too many clecos. Brown Tool has them for .39 each in quantities of 100.

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I'm about to buy the Zenith tool kit for use on a CH-801 and I have a couple of questions.

Are the recommended quantities of Clecos sufficient for the entire build?

Those of you that skipped the tool kit from Zenith and sourced your own tools, do you feel you saved a decent amount of money doing so?

Thanks guys.

Jake Crause
Pooler, GA
www.homebuiltairplanes.com


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

Howdy Jake,

I got my tools from different sources. No clear idea if I saved much money because I got more / different items than what is included in the Zenith kit. I think I did save a little money but spent more time. Picked up extra used clecos from another builder - I think the number recommended by Zenith would be sufficient but having extra is nice.

I was not impressed with the pneumatic rivet gun that I bought from Zenith. Mine tended to have a recoil that made dinging components a real risk. I was given a pneumatic riveter from Harbor Freight (ITEM 93458-1VGA) which I like much better. The HF unit is only about $30 and has the same rivet head thread pitch as the Zenith unit so I was able to use the Zenith-modified heads.

You might want to take the time to browse some sites like Avery, Brown Tools, Cleaveland, etc. and see what's on sale. Harbor freight can have some good deals too but their quality is not as high as others (but sufficient quality in my opinion). Also, used tools sometimes show up on vansairforce.com in the classifieds forum that can be a good deal.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

If I had to buy stuff it would be three times as many cleco's as zenith suggested but that was back we had to drill all 12,455 holes and I was a bit anal at wanting the plane to be somewhat straight <G> I would get twice as many ratchet straps for closing up the wing skins but that can wait till ya get to that part and Walmart would probably have them on sale (at) 4 for 14 bucks. Enjoy the build,,, it is a BLAST !!!!!!!
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-- Jake Crause <jakecrause(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm about to buy the Zenith tool kit for use on a CH-801 and I have a couple of questions.

Are the recommended quantities of Clecos sufficient for the entire build?

Those of you that skipped the tool kit from Zenith and sourced your own tools, do you feel you saved a decent amount of money doing so? 

Thanks guys.

Jake Crause
Pooler, GA
www.homebuiltairplanes.com


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

Hello Jake,

I dont know why... is not important how much clecoes you buy or have in your workshop, sometimes we all run short of them once in a while... Every time myself, or a friend orders something from Spruce or Wicks, I order a few... This to save in shipping and import handling (expensive here)...
For builders in USA, is great to buy some used ones at the "fly market" in EAA's OSH and S&F. Probably in other smaller fly ins or airshows have this important booths for homebuilders...

Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying (and building) from Chapala. Mexico.



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I'm about to buy the Zenith tool kit for use on a CH-801 and I have a couple of questions.

Are the recommended quantities of Clecos sufficient for the entire build?

Those of you that skipped the tool kit from Zenith and sourced your own tools, do you feel you saved a decent amount of money doing so?

Thanks guys.

Jake Crause
Pooler, GA
www.homebuiltairplanes.com


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

Hi Jake;
 The Zenith tool kit is reasonable with reservations. I did not buy the air drill from them I found a Sioux air drill on sale, I thought Zeniths price for it rather high. There are nowhere near enough clecos. I have double the number of 3/32 and 1/8. It is often handy to leave a slat or a flap unriveted for a while hence the extras.You will also need a few, say ten, 3/16 clecos when you fit the slats to the wings. My EAA Advisor also sugested that when I needed to test bolt parts together that I not use the bolts that are in the hardware kit but to buy a box of 25 3/16 nuts bolts and washers. He did not like the idea of using the "real" bolts during the building phase. I found a chip chaser to be handy. I bought a right angle drill kit this I found indispensable in the tight corners of the wings and fuselage. I also bought a bunch more #20 #30 and #40 drills. I originally thought I would sharpen dull drills, it is not worth it. One of each size in 6 inch and 12 inch length is very useful too. You can never have enough tools! Well I have rambled on enough.

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I'm about to buy the Zenith tool kit for use on a CH-801 and I have a couple of questions.

Are the recommended quantities of Clecos sufficient for the entire build?

Those of you that skipped the tool kit from Zenith and sourced your own tools, do you feel you saved a decent amount of money doing so?

Thanks guys.

Jake Crause
Pooler, GA
www.homebuiltairplanes.com


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

Purchased the complete tool kit in September. ZAC has the new rivet gun now. Very nice. Quantities of clecos different story. Purchased double the number from Spruce (nice discount) and some more!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Zenith Tool kit Reply with quote

Steven, Ben, Gary, John, and Stefan,

Thanks for the input. It's very much appreciated.

"...........ZAC has the new rivet gun now. Very nice."

Stefan: Is the new riveter you mentioned the one they show in the kit photo here: http://www.zenithair.com/kit/tools/toolkit.html
Or have they gone to a different brand or model? Thanks.

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