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Nick Leonard

Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Posts: 35
Location: Sacramento, CA

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

I'm hoping to extend my panel height to 13" but not sure that I will have a problem with my forward stick movement hitting the panel.  I have a CH Products grip  and I have cut the stick down as far a possible.  I'm trying to avoid having to reinstall the horizontal and elevator to check the stick forward clearance.  I know that others have done this with various custom panels and I'm trying to find out if the elevator stops will limit the forward movement or do I have to trim the panel back up the the original height?



Jesse or Stein or others that have gone through this, can you give me any insight?



Thanks,



Nick

speckter(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

I have the CH sticks and needed to also reweld the bases of the sticks to make them clear the panel.

  

 Gary Specketer

  

 [quote]-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: "Nick Leonard" <nick(at)nleonard.com> 



[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "Nick Leonard" 

 

 I'm hoping to extend my panel height to 13" but not sure that I will have a 

 problem with my forward stick movement hitting the panel. I have a CH Products 

 grip and I have cut the stick down as far a possible. I'm trying to avoid 

 having to reinstall the horizontal and elevator to check the stick forward 

 clearance. I know that others have done this with various custom panels and I'm 

 trying to find out if the elevator stops will limit the forward movement or do I 

 have to trim the panel back up the the original height? 

 

 Jesse or Stein or others that have gone through this, can you give me any 

 insight? 

 

   Thanks  ======  [quote][b]

rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

I have a Stein panel and had to re-weld my stick.



Here is a copy of an e-mail from Scott Schmidt, he led the way for me and

gets the credit.....



"I had the same issues.  There is nothing you can do with the rigging to

make it fit.  I cut my stick toward the top, purchased some steel that was

the same grade and wall thickness.  I can't remember what it was, but I

called Van's and they knew.  I then extended the stick about 1" and also

angled it back just a little until it didn't hit anything.  I hired a

professional tig welder to help me weld it up.  It turned out great and I

actually like it back where it is.  



Here is a picture of the finished product.  

http://www.scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/1630837#101769967



Good luck. 



 

Scott Schmidt

Office 801-990-1252

Cell 801-718-1277

Fax 801-990-1256

scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com"

Rene'

801-721-6080

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

The elevator stops won't limit the travel, you will need to modify the 

geometry of the control sticks to allow for full travel.



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/



Nick Leonard wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm hoping to extend my panel height to 13" but not sure that I will have a problem with my forward stick movement hitting the panel.  I have a CH Products grip  and I have cut the stick down as far a possible.  I'm trying to avoid having to reinstall the horizontal and elevator to check the stick forward clearance.  I know that others have done this with various custom panels and I'm trying to find out if the elevator stops will limit the forward movement or do I have to trim the panel back up the the original height?



 Jesse or Stein or others that have gone through this, can you give me any insight?



 Thanks,



 Nick





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 24142#224142

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

speckter(at)comcast.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have the CH sticks and needed to also reweld the bases of the sticks 

 to make them clear the panel.

How far past the panel did the stick originally go??
	


How about now?

Linn

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 Gary Specketer

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

I'm curious ..... what flight maneuver would you need full forward stick 

for?  If you had full forward stick against your extended panel, would 

you still be able to perform the maneuver ..... albeit not as tight and 

crisp?  Are you worried about avoiding something in the air and using 

full forward stick???



I'm also thinking of a sub-panel but haven't given it much thought.

Linn

do not archive

Nick Leonard wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I'm hoping to extend my panel height to 13" but not sure that I will have a problem with my forward stick movement hitting the panel.  I have a CH Products grip  and I have cut the stick down as far a possible.  I'm trying to avoid having to reinstall the horizontal and elevator to check the stick forward clearance.  I know that others have done this with various custom panels and I'm trying to find out if the elevator stops will limit the forward movement or do I have to trim the panel back up the the original height?



 Jesse or Stein or others that have gone through this, can you give me any insight?



 Thanks,



 Nick





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 24142#224142

planesmith(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

Only thing that comes to mind is spin recovery. At least that's what you use in a Cessna the RV 10 may be different.



Vern Smith (#324 finishing) 



 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Sun C 11 Jan 2009 10:58:24 -0500

 From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Maximum Panel Hieght

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>

 

 I'm curious ..... what flight maneuver would you need full forward stick 

 for?  If you had full forward stick against your extended panel C would 

 you still be able to perform the maneuver ..... albeit not as tight and 

 crisp?  Are you worried about avoiding something in the air and using 

 full forward stick???

 

 I'm also thinking of a sub-panel but haven't given it much thought.

 Linn

 do not archive


	


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daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

How about breaking a stall?



Dave Leikam

RV-10 #40496

N89DA (Reserved)

Muskego, WI

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rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

I was more concerned that the stick could get caught under the edge of the

panel....moving the stick forward and to the side it could get caught.....



I never plan on using fully forward stick.....



Rene'

801-721-6080

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

Good point Vernon.  Maybe someone that's spun the -10 will chime in on 

the recovery.  Does it need full forward stick to recover?  Will it 

recover with centered stick and just brisk rudder application???

Linn

do not archive



Vernon Smith wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Only thing that comes to mind is spin recovery. At least that's what 

 you use in a Cessna the RV 10 may be different.



 Vern Smith (#324 finishing)



 > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:58:24 -0500

 > From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net

 > To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 > Subject: Re: Maximum Panel Hieght

 >

 > 

 <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>

 >

 > I'm curious ..... what flight maneuver would you need full forward 

 stick

 > for? If you had full forward stick against your extended panel, would

 > you still be able to perform the maneuver ..... albeit not as tight and

 > crisp? Are you worried about avoiding something in the air and using

 > full forward stick???

 >

 > I'm also thinking of a sub-panel but haven't given it much thought.

 > Linn

 > do not archive

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 Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. 

 <http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009> 



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scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

View this previous thread. 

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=42513&highlight=stick+weld

 

Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com



From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:26:07 PM

Subject: Re: Maximum Panel Hieght



 --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)>



The elevator stops won't limit the travel, you will need to modify the 

geometry of the control sticks to allow for full travel.



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/



Nick Leonard wrote:

[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "Nick Leonard" <nick(at)nleonard.com (nick(at)nleonard.com)>



 I'm hoping to extend my panel height to 13" but not sure that I will have a problem with my forward stick movement hitting the panel.  I have a CH Products grip  and I have cut the stick down as far a possible.  I'm trying to avoid having to reinstall the horizontal and elevator to check the stick forward [quote][b]

speckter(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

Originally the stick hit the panel, I estimate I needed to move the stick top aft about 1" and reweld where I had cut a notch at the base to allow the bending.

  

 Gary Specketer

  

  hare,   [quote][b]

stein(at)steinair.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: Maximum Panel Hieght

At 13" you shouldn't have any problem at all.  Most of the panels we do are

exactly that size (our modular panel is exactly 13"). That is only .75" more

than the standard Van's panel. More of it depends on your stick grip than

the panel, as those can add 6" to the stick. As Rene said, sometimes the

easiest is just having a new stick welded or modify your current one.  Been

done lots of times!



Cheers,

Stein



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