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rv6n(at)optonline.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: EAB S-LSA E-LSA

Buz C

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 I am glad you wrote this second message to Brian because it helped me clarify the confusion from your first note E  6nbsp;I am new to this list and am currently an RV6 builder-owner-pilot wanting to sell the RV 6nbsp;and build a Lightning for the purpose of flying under the LSA 6nbsp;rules due to medical reasons E

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 My preference is to build a Lightning registered EAB 6nbsp;that performs within the LSA 6nbsp;performance requirements E 6nbsp; So if I understand this correctly this is quite possible and therefore I am missing the reasoning for the E-LSA 6nbsp;version E 6nbsp; Why would anyone want to do that if the Lighning 6nbsp;-EAB 6nbsp;can be flown by a sport pilot or private with no medical? 6nbsp; As an EAB 6nbsp;builder I could make changes if I felt like it as long as I was not changing the performance for LSA 6nbsp;and would qualify for a repairman 6nbsp;certificate E 6nbsp; 6nbsp;As an E-LSA 6nbsp;builder with no building options C a 16 hour course would be required in order to be eligible to do the annual condition inspection even after spending all the time to build it E 6nbsp; I am assuming that the FAA previously approved the Lightning 6nbsp;kit eligible under the 51 5 rule for EAB 6nbsp;registration C did it not? 6nbsp; I honestly do not know if Arion 6nbsp;has a  2Letter of Eligibility 2 about that C I am hoping they do and that they have a check list for EAB 6nbsp;builders E 6nbsp; I am also hoping there is sufficient support to help guide me through this quest E 

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 OK C I now have an answer to my big question above E 6nbsp; It takes my gray smothered head a while to think this stuff through E 6nbsp; A builder would want to build E-LSA 6nbsp;when that builder does not want to do the majority of the work C such as by hiring commercial help E 6nbsp; There is nothing wrong with that and that is the real reason for S-LSA 6nbsp;and E-LSA E 6nbsp; Now we all can be happy E

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 So it is off to Sebring 6nbsp;to start this exciting journey and do more research E 6nbsp; Now if I can just find a buyer for my beautiful RV6 E

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 Bob Bales

 Mattituck C NY

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 PS: 6nbsp; lets not forget Matt when we don 7t want this stuff archived forever E

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N1BZRich(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: EAB S-LSA E-LSA

Hi Bob,

     Good to hear from you.  You might want to get  in touch with Tex Mantell from New York, or Carl and Pat Beatrice ( I hope I  spelled that right from memory) in New Hampshire.  Tex is currently  building a Lightning at his home and Carl and Pat (previous RV-6 builders) will  be starting their Lightning build at SYI in February.  

     Now to clarify some of my previous comments:   At this time the current EAB Lightning in not on the approved list of 51%  kits.  The FAA never got around to inspecting it before they put a  moratorium on the inspections.  When they do look at it, we feel sure the  kit will be approved because the Esqual is on the approved list and it is  slightly more complete kit that is the Lighting.  It really will  depend on the people that actually inspect the current Lightning kit.  But  until the new 51% rule is out, no more inspections will be done, and the  Lightning guys have no way of knowing what will be allowed until the new rule is  published.  IF the current kit happens to not meet the new rule, they will  do what is required so that it will meet that rule, but that might take some  time.  Certainly some time until the FAA gets around to looking at the  kit.  So, instead of being totally out of business until that happens, they  are going the SLSA and thus ELSA route so they can keep selling  Lightnings.  Plus, by doing so they meet the needs of those that want to  fly with a light sport license, but don't want to build an EAB. 

 Hope this helps,

 Enjoy Sebring,

 Buz



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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: EAB S-LSA E-LSA

Thank you Buz C

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 Since the current kits are not on the Eligible list C and since there is no S-LSA 6nbsp;approval yet C therefore no one can build an E-LSA 6nbsp;version C how are the current builders proving to the DARs 6nbsp;they built 51 5 of the plane so it can be registered EAB? 6nbsp; This is something I would need to know before commiting 6nbsp;to build because I would want to be able to do the same E

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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: EAB S-LSA E-LSA

Bob, the key to proving to any DAR that you did 51% of the work is your  builders log.  Take lots of photos throughout the process to show the  DAR.  If the DAR has any questions he will ask you.  You can also use  your builders log when you go to your local FAA office to get your Repairman's  certificate.  If you use the builder's center at SYI you will have no  problem at all.  The guys there have it set up so you do at least 51% with  their help and the DAR has inspected so many of their airplanes that he has lots  of confidence in both their workmanship and accuracy of all paperwork, to  include your build log.  

 Buz

  

 PS: Some of us have used a computer program called "Kit Log Pro" for the  builder's log.  It helped me quite a bit when I built the Esqual and then  when the chapter built the 601XL.  Unfortunately it was not around way back  in 1977 when I finished my Pitts.  



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