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Paul A. Franz, P.E.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Lynn's skis, trip to Oshkosh Reply with quote

On Mon, January 19, 2009 5:40 pm, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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I'd still like to use that HVOS (high visibility orange with silicone
added) material that you mentioned, Paul, but the price of a 4' x 10'
sheet (the only way they sell it) with shipping would be close to
$275. If I went that way, I'd like reduce the 66" ski that I have
right now to 60", so that I could make 4 sets of skis out of one
sheet. At 66", I could make 2 sets and have 54" leftover for snow
boards, or something else.

Getting 4 sets out of sheet making it about $70 each set sounds affordable.

Must be a way to do it without having to shorten the skis. Sounds to me like the 66"
length is about perfect and with the turned up edges, maybe even a little longer would
be good too. Maybe a layout that requires a splicing might be possible given the
dimensions of the sheet that you have to suggest.

Would you use rub bars with HVOS too? If so, maybe you could cut the length you want
and split the pieces with the rub bar? You could still get two full sets of skis and 5
sets out of two sheets.

With so many people building skis, a little cooperation on the materials purchase
might be possible. Probably have to post on a few more e-mail lists and forums though.

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On the skis I made two years ago, I did use 1/4" UHMW PE, but thought
I'd give the thinner HDPE a try this time.

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Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
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Lynn Matteson



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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Lynn's skis, trip to Oshkosh Reply with quote

I'm was going to try to find a similar material locally, but have
been busy building/flying and haven't followed up on it.
Yes, $70 in sheathing material is just about right. That's about what
I paid for all the sheathing material I used in the present skis.
I'd rather not splice if I could help it, and I think I could shorten
by 6" without too much difficulty...maybe by widening by an inch or
so, (which would still fit within the 24" width of a 4-way split of
the 4' x 10' sheet) and still retain the area that I have now.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying


On Jan 19, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Paul Franz - Merlin GT wrote:

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<paul(at)eucleides.com>

On Mon, January 19, 2009 5:40 pm, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>

> I'd still like to use that HVOS (high visibility orange with silicone
> added) material that you mentioned, Paul, but the price of a 4' x 10'
> sheet (the only way they sell it) with shipping would be close to
> $275. If I went that way, I'd like reduce the 66" ski that I have
> right now to 60", so that I could make 4 sets of skis out of one
> sheet. At 66", I could make 2 sets and have 54" leftover for snow
> boards, or something else.

Getting 4 sets out of sheet making it about $70 each set sounds
affordable.

Must be a way to do it without having to shorten the skis. Sounds
to me like the 66"
length is about perfect and with the turned up edges, maybe even a
little longer would
be good too. Maybe a layout that requires a splicing might be
possible given the
dimensions of the sheet that you have to suggest.

Would you use rub bars with HVOS too? If so, maybe you could cut
the length you want
and split the pieces with the rub bar? You could still get two full
sets of skis and 5
sets out of two sheets.

With so many people building skis, a little cooperation on the
materials purchase
might be possible. Probably have to post on a few more e-mail lists
and forums though.

> On the skis I made two years ago, I did use 1/4" UHMW PE, but thought
> I'd give the thinner HDPE a try this time.

--
Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell




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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Lynn's skis, trip to Oshkosh Reply with quote

Lynn:

You mentioned that the edges of your skis looked scalloped not as good as
you would like... I was thinking about that and remembered that many knives
have scalloped sides so meat or whatever won't stick to the sides of the
knife... Those scallops on the edges of your skis, while they may not look
nice, may actually improve the operation of the skis. Especially in deep
snow.

Noel

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Lynn's skis, trip to Oshkosh Reply with quote

you want a perfect edge, use a sheet metal break and bend it 90 degrees, it will relax to the perfect angle for you. That is what Airglass does for their ski's

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Lynn's skis, trip to Oshkosh Reply with quote

You might be right, Noel...sometimes these things just have a way of
working themselves out. : )

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
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On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:

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Lynn:

You mentioned that the edges of your skis looked scalloped not as
good as
you would like... I was thinking about that and remembered that
many knives
have scalloped sides so meat or whatever won't stick to the sides
of the
knife... Those scallops on the edges of your skis, while they may
not look
nice, may actually improve the operation of the skis. Especially
in deep
snow.

Noel


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