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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: W&B 601X Reply with quote

Pat, what happens to the canopy when the BRS is fired? Isn't the canopy on top of it?

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Gig Giacona wrote:
> the 1350 which is the one that should be used in a 1320 lbs 601XL.


I'm installing a BRS-1350 in my XL, and am thinking that placement between the instrument panel and the firewall is the best location. It is a tight fit, and I think the European XL's do utilize a smaller BRS.

Here are the pictures of what I'm considering at this point: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/BRS#
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

carlossa52(at)gmail.com wrote:
Pat, what happens to the canopy when the BRS is fired? Isn't the canopy on top of it?

The rear portion of the canopy would be in the way if the BRS were mounted in the baggage area (assuming usage of the 650 canopy), which is one reason why I want to put my BRS up front. The bracket that the rocket tube is mounted on is bolted to the cabin side of the firewall, and the rocket fires up through a frangible cover on the center-front portion of the forward top skin (ahead of the front of the canopy).

You can get an idea of the available space between the firewall and the leading edge of the 650 canopy by looking at this photo: http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/608/650ata2.jpg

I don't know what would happen to the canopy if the BRS were fired in this front-mounted scenario. My main concern would be that the parachute not get "fouled" on it.

Again, this is what I'm considering doing on my own airplane. I have not completed the install, so it remains unproven at this time. I am interested in seeing what other XL/650 builders have done in this regard, and building upon the proven success of others.

- Pat


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

please find the CZAW drawing for the forward installation of the BRS for the 601xl i think the forward part of the bubble is the same on the 650

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

alex_001 wrote:
the forward installation of the BRS for the 601xl

Excellent. Real world photo examples.

Thank you for sharing, Alex. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

CZAW used the 1050 which is smaller than the 1350 and I assume lighter. Will the 1350 fit there?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

Gig Giacona wrote:
Will the 1350 fit there?

I posted a link earlier in this thread to pictures of what I'm considering doing regarding my BRS 1350 on my XL.

- Pat


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: W&B 601X Reply with quote

additional info.

on my recent CZAW xl they installed a "shroud" between the tray and the opening so that nothing can get tanggeld.

I guess the bigger BRS should also fit because on the CZAW Sportcruiserit is installed there and i would call the Sportcruiser an "updated and modified 601xl"

thats also the reason i think the license arrangement got terminated.

But just for fun and Info there is now also a Sportscruiser "clone" www.rokoaero.com
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