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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 02/02/09 |
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Is any one planning a "Kitfox" trip to Alaska this Summer?
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1. 12:04 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report (Lowlead)
2. 01:04 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 02/01/09 (b gammon)
3. 03:55 AM - Re: Re: ski saver AKFLYERBOB (Larry Huntley)
4. 06:02 AM - Re: Fw: ski saver (Lynn Matteson)
5. 07:01 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test ReportElevator Gap Seal Test Report (Catz631(at)aol.com (Catz631(at)aol.com))
6. 07:03 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report (lowflyer)
7. 07:05 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report (Catz631(at)AOL.COM (Catz631(at)AOL.COM))
8. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report (Rexinator)
9. 07:34 AM - Re: air worthiness (dcsfoto)
10. 09:41 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report (darinh)
11. 10:54 AM - Re: ski saver (George Wells)
12. 03:58 PM - Kitfox owner location map (Paul A. Franz, P.E.)
13. 04:45 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test ReportElevator Gap Seal Test Report (patrick reilly)
14. 05:09 PM - Re: Fw: ski saver (patrick reilly)
15. 05:27 PM - Re: Kitfox broken motor mount (Malcolm Brubaker)
16. 05:44 PM - Posting videos (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
17. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox broken motor mount (Noel Loveys)
18. 06:55 PM - Flaperon hinge brackets (clemwehner)
19. 07:02 PM - Re: Fw: ski saver (Lynn Matteson)
20. 07:20 PM - Re: Fw: ski saver (patrick reilly)
21. 07:33 PM - Re: Fw: ski saver (Lynn Matteson)
22. 07:46 PM - Re: Flaperon hinge brackets (Tom Jones)
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Time: 12:04:06 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report
From: "Lowlead" <j.t.cowie(at)xoxy.net (j.t.cowie(at)xoxy.net)>
Thanks Rex (and Lynn)! I wish I could say that it's this consistent along the entire
length of the gap, but it's not. The gaps tend to be smaller on the outboard
ends due to the way the tightened fabric act on the stab and elevator frames.
Installation is hard to describe but not that hard to do. One thing nice about
this tape is that it's very pliable and the adhesive is not super-aggressive at
first. The tape is applied across the gap (we'll say the top side first) with
a very slight 'drape' down and then firmly pressed onto the LE/TE tubes. Then
the bottom side tape is applied with a very slight drape up (I used a pc of
1/4" tube to force the drape up) and then pressed onto the LE/TE tubes. The two
tapes stick to one another like a champ but leaves a triangular 'bubble' running
the entire length . I used a wooden tongue depressor and fingers to press
the top and bottom tapes together to eliminate the bubble. (see attached). It's
tough stuff and stretches well enough to get a tight installation. There's
no worries about tearing or punching through with the tongue depressor.
The control surface (elevator or rudder) must be in the neutral position when tape
is applied or else a tension 'bias' might get built into the installation
(ex: rudder now pulls left or right due to tape..)
Hope this makes sense...
Dan H.
rexinator wrote:
Quote: | That's exactly what I was trying to describe with my >-< symbol and my
little drawn image file. I agree with Lynn that it's a nice job. Can
you elaborate on how you applied so well?
Rex
Colorado M2/582
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Time: 01:04:57 AM PST US
From: b gammon <gammon25(at)yahoo.com (gammon25(at)yahoo.com)>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 02/01/09
This is my first attempt to participate in the Kitfox discussions. =0AIs an
yone planning to fly a Kitfox to Alaska this Summer?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0AFrom: Kitfox-List Digest Server <kitfox-list(at)mat
ronics.com>=0ATo: Kitfox-List Digest List <kitfox-list-digest(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list-digest(at)matronics.com)
Quote: | =0ASent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:59:13 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List Diges
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es the Digest formatted =0Ain HTML for viewing with a web browser and featu
res Hyperlinked Indexes =0Aand Message Navigation.- The .txt file include
s the plain ASCII version =0Aof the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed wi
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:38 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Catz631(at)aol.com (Catz631(at)aol.com))=0A- - 2
. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Noel Loveys)=0A-
- 3. 11:09 AM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Noel Loveys)=0A-
- 4. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Lynn Matteson)
=0A- - 5. 12:02 PM - Kitfox with rotax fuel injection- (jason Parker)
=0A- - 6. 02:02 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Randy Da
ughenbaugh)=0A- - 7. 02:22 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (L
ynn Matteson)=0A- - 8. 03:02 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report-
(Bob Brennan)=0A- - 9. 03:13 PM - Ski report/snow conditions- (Lynn M
atteson)=0A- - 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Lyn
n Matteson)=0A- - 11. 03:24 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (
Larry Huntley)=0A- - 12. 05:00 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report
- (Noel Loveys)=0A- - 13. 05:05 PM - Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Repor
t- (Lowlead)=0A- - 14. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Repo
rt- (Lynn Matteson)=0A- - 15. 05:39 PM - Fw: ski saver- (Larry Hunt
ley)=0A- - 16. 06:11 PM - Re: Fw: ski saver- (patrick reilly)=0A-
- 17. 06:50 PM - Re: ski saver- (AKFLYERBOB)=0A- - 18. 08:17 PM - R
e: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report- (Rexinator)=0A- - 19. 09:18 PM
- Re: Fw: ski saver- (John Bonewitz)=0A- - 20. 11:08 PM - Official Ki
tfox-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)- (Matt Dralle)=0A- - 21. 1
1:25 PM - Official Kitfox-List Usage Guidelines- (Matt Dralle)=0A=0A=0A
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______________=0A=0A=0ATime: 06:38:03 AM PST US=0AFrom: Catz631(at)aol.com (Catz631(at)aol.com)=0AS
ubject: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report=0A=0AThat foam weath
er striping sounds like a good idea. You could further refine =0Athis by pu
tting a strip of teflon antichafe tape on the other side of the =0Aweather
striping foam(oposite the adhesive side) or on the elevator leading edge=0A
=0Afor that mater. This stuff is real slick and I bought a roll of it from
Spruce=0A=0Aas a cowling chafe tape a while back. It works real well.=0AOnl
y thing is, in the heat the adhesive on weather strip tends to give way =0A
into a goo.=0A- That sailplane tape looks interesting also=0A- - -
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06 AM PST US=0AFrom: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)>=0ASubject: RE: Kit
fox-List: Re: Elevator Gap Seal Test Report=0A=0A=0AOr you could attach the
seal, on the elevator side only with good old 1 in.=0AVelcro.=0A=0AAnother
thing to try is to cover the leading edge of the elevator and rudder=0Awit
h the plastic tape then attach the gap seal to that tape so when you=0Aremo
ve the seal you don't disturb the dope under it.=0A=0ANoel=0A=0A-----Origin
al Message-----=0AFrom: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com)=0A[mailto:ow
ner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (ner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson=0ASent: Sa
turday, January 31, 2009 8:12 AM=0ASubject: Re: Re: Elevator G
ap Seal Test Report=0A=0A=0AGood idea, but I'm from the camp that always wa
nts to be able to take- =0Asomething apart if a problem arises. I guess i
f a rock passed through- =0Athe elevator, you could always MEK the Vee of
f from the elevator, and- =0Amaybe reattach it when the repairs were made
. A longer process, by- =0Afar, than the tape method, but cleaner-looking
.=0A=0ALynn Matteson=0AKitfox IV Speedster, taildragger=0AJabiru 2200, #206
2, 600.2 hrs=0ASensenich 62x46=0AElectroair direct-fire ignition system=0AN
ew skis done and flying=0A=0A=0AOn Jan 31, 2009, at 2:37 AM, JC Propeller D
esign wrote:=0A=0A> <propellerdesign(at)tele2.se (propellerdesign(at)tele2.se)>=0A>=0A> You can use that, bu
t why not take 2 pieces sewn together at the- =0A> middle and dope one Ve
e to stab and other to elevator.=0A>=0A> Or use sail fabric that is air tig
ht from start=0A>=0A> Jan=0A> ---
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 02/02/09 |
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I will be going to Alaska late August, but will not be flying the kitfox. If you plan to be in Fairbanks early September, I would like to try to make contact. It is my old flying area and I might have access to a C206.
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 02/02/09 |
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One never knows! Last year at the Desert Fox Squadron fly-in, some talk centered around a trip this year. The fly-in is coming up the end of March, so we might hear more. I've made the trip four times--twice in my Kitfox. What are your plans/ideas, where are you located, what do you fly, have you been to Alaska before, and who are you?
Stan Specht
Model IV Speedster 912ul (1440 hrs.)
Lakewood, Colorado
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