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Cmflyboy12(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

hello,This is flyboy. I have a 582 kitfox 2 with a cgs prop I was thinking  abot changing to IVO 3 Blade,any advise

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manceliller(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

isint it a gsc? i have a 3 blade wooden prop C it a gsc C and i like it !!!    i really dont know the differance C between the 2

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 hello CThis is flyboy. I have a 582 kitfox 2 with a cgs prop I was thinking abot changing to IVO 3 Blade Cany advise

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

yes it is, I got it backwords.Why I ask is I,ve had a ivo 3 blade on a  challenger 2 and I liked the way it adjusted.

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manceliller(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

well i had a dog attack my plane a few years ago C and he ran into the prop C it killed the dog C and cracked my prop! i bought a new gsc C and only adjusted it once. do you play with your settings alot? p.s i just sent you some pictures of my bird

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 yes it is C I got it backwords.Why I ask is I Cve had a ivo 3 blade on a challenger 2 and I liked the way it adjusted.

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

where do I get your pics at I,ll send you 1 of  mine

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manceliller(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

i sent them to cmflyboy12(at)aol.com (cmflyboy12(at)aol.com)

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Date: Sun C 15 Feb 2009 11:35:39 -0500

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 where do I get your pics at I Cll send you 1 of mine

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manceliller(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

well im headed to the airport C to do some taxiing.......wish me luck.........good looking airplane

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Date: Sun C 15 Feb 2009 11:35:39 -0500

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 where do I get your pics at I Cll send you 1 of mine

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

yes I have found them. That is a very,very nice plane,I love that  yellow,

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

Good luck stay on top of that tail wheel

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:40 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

I have a KF with an 3 blade IVO....  582 E box

  

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Paul A. Franz, P.E.

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

On Sun, February 15, 2009 8:28 am, lance miller wrote:

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I'd like to see them too. Probably everyone else does too!



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Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

Boy that’s a good question to get things going...  sort of like asking what is the best flower, what is the best oiil or the best colour scotch brite.... let’s not go there again.  Not this early in the silly season.  

   

I have had two props on my plane so far and I have another one to put on the new 912.    

   

The first was a three blade GSC wood prop.  It was a little long for the float application and consistently picked up spray in the prop.  I was continuously filling and dressing the leading edge.  I think that prop had been over tightened at one time as when I set the pitch and torque down the blades to spec they would always go back to the original setting.  When I found out the blades were almost fifteen years time expired I decided to go with another prop.  

   

Enter prop #2 an UL Ivo electric IFA.  At first I was a little sceptical if thei thin bladed prop would be able to pull my float plane.  I needn’t have worried.  It worked perfectly.  Being an inch or so shorter than the GSC meant it didn’t lift the spray like the GSC so I didn’t have the problems of leading edge pitting.  There are a few points about this prop..   First it is worth your time to set the limits on the prop.  It takes a little longer but will be worth it in the end.    

Secondly:  This is a composite prop.  It is not as hard a steel so you should very carefully follow the instructions on installing the prop so as not to damage the blades.  

Next:  The connector where the wires run into the hub I found to be weak and several times the contacts came out in flight even though the locking screws were in.  Don’t ask I don’t know how.  I ended up adding a couple of self tapping screws into the connectors to snug things up That worked fine.  

Finally:  the slip rings and brushes are prone to water damage in rain.  For that reason I always kept but never used a couple of small wrenches that would enable me to turn the brush carrier away from the slip rings if I encountered any showers.  

   

I think you will get lots of replies to this one.  

   

Noel  

       

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:31 am Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

I thought that common wisdom was to not use a wooden prop on a float- 

equipped airplane. Maybe the key word here is "wisdom".



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 605 hrs

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On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Noel Loveys wrote:



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		   Boy that’s a good question to get things going...  sort of like  

 asking what is the best flower, what is the best oiil or the best  

 colour scotch brite.... let’s not go there again.  Not this early  

 in the silly season.



 I have had two props on my plane so far and I have another one to  

 put on the new 912.



 The first was a three blade GSC wood prop.  It was a little long  

 for the float application and consistently picked up spray in the  

 prop.  I was continuously filling and dressing the leading edge.  I  

 think that prop had been over tightened at one time as when I set  

 the pitch and torque down the blades to spec they would always go  

 back to the original setting.  When I found out the blades were  

 almost fifteen years time expired I decided to go with another prop.



 Enter prop #2 an UL Ivo electric IFA.  At first I was a little  

 sceptical if thei thin bladed prop would be able to pull my float  

 plane.  I needn’t have worried.  It worked perfectly.  Being an  

 inch or so shorter than the GSC meant it didn’t lift the spray like  

 the GSC so I didn’t have the problems of leading edge pitting.   

 There are a few points about this prop..   First it is worth your  

 time to set the limits on the prop.  It takes a little longer but  

 will be worth it in the end.



 Secondly:  This is a composite prop.  It is not as hard a steel so  

 you should very carefully follow the instructions on installing the  

 prop so as not to damage the blades.



 Next:  The connector where the wires run into the hub I found to be  

 weak and several times the contacts came out in flight even though  

 the locking screws were in.  Don’t ask I don’t know how.  I ended  

 up adding a couple of self tapping screws into the connectors to  

 snug things up That worked fine.



 Finally:  the slip rings and brushes are prone to water damage in  

 rain.  For that reason I always kept but never used a couple of  

 small wrenches that would enable me to turn the brush carrier away  

 from the slip rings if I encountered any showers.



 I think you will get lots of replies to this one.



 Noel



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 yes it is, I got it backwords.Why I ask is I,ve had a ivo 3 blade  

 on a challenger 2 and I liked the way it adjusted.



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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: what prop is the best,for a 582

I agree with you on that one but the GSC was on the plane when I got it.



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