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Guy Buchanan
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: Rumored TSA Directive |
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All,
At great risk I am cross-posting this information from the Lancair list. This is not an open invitation to bash the government or debate the merits of the TSA or this particular measure. Rather I post it to widen the audience for the purposes of seeking additional information as to the truth and scope of the directive.
I wanted to let you all know of a very disturbing TSA Security Directive
(SD) that is being implemented under the radar that affects ALL U.S.
airports with commercial Part 121 scheduled airline service.
This is reality folks, and several of us here in good ol’ western Colorado attended a meeting with TSA personnel tonight in Montrose MTJ and confirmed this shocking news firsthand.
This SD would require that every person who steps foot in the airport operations area be screened for security clearance and badged before being allowed to have access on the ramp. If you are not badged, then you must wait to be escorted by a badged representative and escorted off the AOA.
This means that if you are flying into GJT, you would have to wait in your cockpit until someone escorted you directly to the FBO. That means no more self-serve fueling opportunities unless someone is there to meet you, no more mingling on the ramp and talking to your buddies…...no more freedom.
However, here is the kicker – Let’s say you go through this security clearance at your local airport (a $175 fee at GJT) and want to fly anywhere else and land at an airport with scheduled commercial airline service i.e. Montrose, Vail, Telluride, Loveland, Long Beach, Ontario, Santa Ana etc. you will have to be badged at EACH airport!
The way the SD is written now (and is effective April 30, 2009) there is no provision for a standardized security clearance. Each airport operates independently of every other airport!!!!!! This is complete madness. This will drive the nail in the coffin of GA, and combined with the TSA Large Aircraft Security Proposal (LASP) would virtually destroy the freedoms that all of us have known our entire aviation careers!
AOPA was not aware of this until last week, NBAA, NATA, EAA are caught off guard. You need to understand what this will do to our industry.
The TSA personnel are not even allowing us to view this 14 page directive because it is deemed sensitive to “national security”. Our freedoms are being stripped away right before our eyes.
As soon as we can get our hands on this document we will make it public to everyone in the aviation community. Please take the time to question your local TSA representatives about this proposal and get involved.
If this thing is implemented, just think how long it will take to be a requirement of EVERY airport in the U.S.
If there was ever a time for action, this is it.
AOPA Response
Mr. Miller,
Thank you for contacting the AOPA Pilot Information Center. Yes, AOPA is aware of this mandate. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts, the TSA is proceeding with this program. While the full details of the program are classified, it will essentially require all persons with access to the secure portion of the airport have a TSA approved airport access badge. If you have any specific questions about this program, please feel free to contact us.
If I can be of further assistance, feel free to contact me.
Tom Kramer
Aviation Technical Specialist
AOPA Pilot Information Center
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: Rumored TSA Directive |
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We have been required to have a badge for ramp access at MLB for the 10 years I have had a hangar there. Anyone flying in is required to go directly to the FBO. What's diffferent in the new rules?
Danny Melnik
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Rocket Factory
Melbourne, FL
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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Location: Bellevue WA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:29 pm Post subject: Rumored TSA Directive |
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On Wed, February 25, 2009 8:58 am, Guy Buchanan wrote:
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This SD would require that every person who steps
foot in the airport operations area be screened
for security clearance and badged before being
allowed to have access on the ramp. If you are
not badged, then you must wait to be escorted by
a badged representative and escorted off the AOA.
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Sure cuts down on the number of $100 burger possibilities. 
BTW, according to AOPA, this is not a rumor:
<quote>
AOPA Response
Mr. Miller,
Thank you for contacting the AOPA Pilot Information Center. Yes, AOPA is aware of
this mandate. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts, the TSA is proceeding with
this program. While the full details of the program are classified, it will
essentially require all persons with access to the secure portion of the airport have
a TSA approved airport access badge. If you have any specific questions about this
program, please feel free to contact us.
If I can be of further assistance, feel free to contact me.
Tom Kramer
</quote>
Aviation Technical Specialist
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Paul A. Franz
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Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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Paul A. Franz, P.E.
Joined: 02 Dec 2008
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Location: Bellevue WA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: Rumored TSA Directive |
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On Wed, February 25, 2009 9:52 am, Danny wrote:
| Quote: | We have been required to have a badge for ramp access at MLB for the 10 years I have
had a hangar there. Anyone flying in is required to go directly to the FBO. What's
diffferent in the new rules?
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1) No badge, you have to be escorted to the FBO. Remain in your aircraft until escort
meets you.
2) No central administration of security clearances. Each airport has it's own fee. No
limits on the size of the fee. Could be $500 for each airport.
3) The practice of having an FBO issue passes at some airports will no longer be
permitted. You'll have to get the expensive security clearance.
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Paul A. Franz
Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
425.241.1618 Cell
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Ken Potter
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Location: Lanark, Ontario
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Rumored TSA Directive |
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Security clearances for everyone?? It's going to be very interesting to see how this affects Oshkosh and other such events. 
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