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orchidman
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 Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:58 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will create.
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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It was 11 knots gusting to 22 Saturday and I had no problem.....
Rene' Felker
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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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If you have an extra long taxi one option is to request to land long to
reduce the taxi distance.
I prefer the free castering nose wheel as it just goes where the fuse
tells it to vs. using the mechanical linkage to resist all those cross
wind forces.
Heading to the airport now 18 gusting 30.
Robin
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Dave(at)AirCraftersLLC.co
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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Yesterday at KWVI, AWOS was saying 17 gusting to 24. I taxied out with
almost a direct crosswind with no problem. It was the first time I noticed
that I had to use bit of differential braking to go down the taxi way. The
nose wanted to point into the wind, and adding rudder didn't help. But a
touch of brake steered it back to centerline.
I was taxiing 020, and the wind was about 250. I turned 080 to use runway
26 for takeoff. When I turned to taxi downwind, the stick gave me a pretty
stiff push. Keeping it centered took more thought and effort than keeping
the nose straight.
After working with 17 knots, I wouldn't hesitate to taxi with a 20 knot
crosswind. Just hold on to the stick!
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
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N921AC 345 hours
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coop85(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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Interesting question. I've had no issue taxiing in some pretty stiff winds.
My opinion is that if it's safe to fly, it's safe to taxi (even if the
direction is 90 degrees off for your taxi). The airplane is pretty stable,
although you need to tap the brake sometimes to help. I would recommend
against riding the brake though as it will certainly heat them more than you
would like.
Marcus
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billderou(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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I have had several problems with the wind, most of them traced to my owning a Piper Archer with steerable nose wheel for many years and not anticipating what might happen if the nose wheel can flop about.
I have learned (and probably learn again) that this aircraft desperately wants to weather vane. I have approached the last transit parking place with the nose pointed downwind, got out and watched the plane make a nice quick 90 degree turn.
Taxiing will be slow in a cross wind because although the braking will effectively steer the plane it will also stop the plane. Here is where you do not appreciate the leverage and force the wind exerts on the aft side of the fuse/tail.
In a high wind condition the takeoff technique is exactly opposite of my Archer. Assume the crosswind is from the right. With the Archer I could start the takeoff roll with some right rudder (nose wheel) and the aircraft pointing slightly to the right. When I tried this with the RV-10 the wind on the aft fuse rotated the plane clockwise accelerating it to the right. I almost lost it. Now in these same conditions I am ready to slam in a non-inituitive hard left rudder.
I find the castering wheel very different. Instead of focusing on where I point the nose I focus on where the wind will push my tail.
Bill DeRouchey
N939SB, flying
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From: Rene Felker <rene(at)felker.com>
Subject: RE: Max X-wind speed to taxi
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 7:17 AM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com (rene(at)felker.com)>
It was 11 knots gusting to 22 Saturday and I had no problem.....
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:52 pm Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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I can't answer your question for the -10 ..... I'm still building ... but I have many hours in my Grumman (AA-1B) with similar nosegear. Bear in mind that the -10 is bigger so .......
Power and good brakes will whip any crosswind .... short of hurricanes and tornadoes!  so taxiing shouldn't be a problem. Once you master the cross-controlled landing, it's a piece of cake ...... just remember that there's a rudder back there and use it. You'll be amazed at the number of 'high time pilots' that forget to move the rudder!!! When you get a landing in a high crosswind .... write it down. That's your demonstrated crosswind capability and should be in your aircraft handbook. Keep it updated!!! My Grumman manual has a notation: Demonstrated crosswind component 36 MPH, Nov. 10, 1999.
Having said all that, I don't think I'd go looking for a high number just to say I did it!!!
Linn
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I spent several hours yesterday at the hanger re-arranging it to receive the fuselage for final assembly. The winds were 25 gusting to 35 and today it will be higher. The wind was almost straight down the runway.
This started me to thinking, I will have up to a quarter mile taxing to/from the runway at 90 deg to the wind.
Question: what is the max x-wind you have taxied your 10 in with no problems and what do you use as your limit? This is my first airplane with a free castering nose gear and I am wondering how much of a problem this will create.
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RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: Max X-wind speed to taxi |
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I agree with Marcus...if it's safe to fly you can probably taxi it
fine too. I was VERY worried about how it would be to taxi with
no steering nosewheel. I found it to be a breeze in crosswinds,
pun intended. It really wasn't hard at all to get comfortable with.
When I went for transition training, I was in winds of 20-25 and even
30kts with good crosswinds some of the time. I think some local
AWOS systems even said 35. Yet the RV-10 seemed to be just great
in it all. For crosswind landings (and all landings) it certainly
beats everything else I've flown. Just like Marcus says, tap the
brakes when you need, use the rudder as much as is appropriate, and
never ride the brakes. The cirrus's have had brake fires from
dragging brakes. When the winds are 20+, taxi isn't the worry,
holding the doors when you open them is a bigger concern.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Marcus Cooper wrote:
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Interesting question. I've had no issue taxiing in some pretty stiff winds.
My opinion is that if it's safe to fly, it's safe to taxi (even if the
direction is 90 degrees off for your taxi). The airplane is pretty stable,
although you need to tap the brake sometimes to help. I would recommend
against riding the brake though as it will certainly heat them more than you
would like.
Marcus
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