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grantr

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X country?

I do not recall seeing any requirements in the FAR/AIM regarding having a current chart and AFD when flying cross country.  I am planning on making the short hop over to Ashburn to the fire ant festival  on the 28th.



I just want to be legal just in case someone is checking.  I have an old chart that went out of date 6 months ago and an old AFD from September 08.



In my area  things pretty much stay the same so I don't see a need to update that often. 



Grant

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John Hauck

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X country?

> I do not recall seeing any requirements in the FAR/AIM regarding having a 

current chart and AFD when flying cross country.  I am planning on making 

the short hop over to Ashburn to the fire ant festival  on the 28th.

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 > Grant
	


My understanding to be current for cross country VFR flights is either a 

current sectional or a current Jeppesen Data Base in your GPS.



If you have an outdated sectional in the cockpit, then have a current 

Jeppesen Data Base.



If the current Jeppesen Data Base is outdated, then have a current 

sectional.



All my sectional charts are outdated, so I keep the Jeppesen Data Base 

current in my GPS.



Currency is important.  Over the years I flew into two airports that were 

indicated as uncontrolled fields on my outdated charts, when in fact they 

had been changed over to tower controlled fields.  Greenwood, MS, was one. 

The other was Galveston, TX.  I was flying my FS when I went into Greenwood 

about 5 minutes before time for the tower to close at 1800.  Tower operator 

was kind enough to come down to the ramp to chat with me.  Tower had 

recently been opened.  Galveston was another story.  There were four of us 

in that flight.  John W was leading.  We had checked NOTAMS, which did not 

include recent opening of the tower.  John W went up to the tower to talk to 

the operators.  We were not bound and gagged, and hauled off the jail, but 

continued our flight low level down the beach to Mexico.



Probably clear as mud, but I have only had one cup of coffee so far this 

morning.



john h

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cristalclear13

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X countr

 	  grantr wrote: 	
		  I do not recall seeing any requirements in the FAR/AIM regarding having a current chart and AFD when flying cross country.  I am planning on making the short hop over to Ashburn to the fire ant festival  on the 28th.



I just want to be legal just in case someone is checking.  I have an old chart that went out of date 6 months ago and an old AFD from September 08.



In my area  things pretty much stay the same so I don't see a need to update that often. 



Grant 	




Grant,



I knew I read something about this before and I found it again on the AOPA Flight Training website.  If you have trouble getting to it let me know:



http://flighttraining.aopa.org/cfi_tools/publications/inst_reports2.cfm?article=5846

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lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X countr

 	  grantr wrote: 	
		  I do not recall seeing any requirements in the FAR/AIM regarding having a current chart and AFD when flying cross country.  I am planning on making the short hop over to Ashburn to the fire ant festival  on the 28th.



I just want to be legal just in case someone is checking.  I have an old chart that went out of date 6 months ago and an old AFD from September 08.



In my area  things pretty much stay the same so I don't see a need to update that often. 



Grant 	




I've gone places before without current charts and I'll never do that again .



Even local flights you want the updated chart or GPS database. My GPS database is something like 3 years old, and I lost the connector thing to update it. 



So I always have a current chart at the very least and a current AFD if I can find one (that's needed to be legal as well). 



One of the local airports suddenly became towered just recently. I was flying with a friend of mine in his RV on a trip and on the return trip we noticed a tower directing traffic there on the comm.... 



My chart in my plane had expired only a couple weeks before, so after we landed I went and got an updated one. Sure enough, there was the towered field on it.....



LS

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:48 pm Post subject: Do you have to have a current chart and AFD for X country?

Sometimes you have to use whatever charts you've got, or can get.

Years ago I was working in  eastern Canada. Before one trip I ordered  

charts from COPA; they didn't come, I called, etc, etc. Then the day  

before I left CT they told me they weren't available. Well, I had  

charts to Montreal, & tried to get them  there. No luck! Not in  

Quebec City either. So I dusted off a 13-year old WAC chart, all I  

had,  and used that. Found  that only one  radio freq had been changed.

Out in the boonies not much gets changed, nor very often. Good thing,  

too

Russ K

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On Mar 24, 2009, at 5:06 PM, lucien wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 grantr wrote:

> I do not recall seeing any requirements in the FAR/AIM regarding  

> having a current chart and AFD when flying cross country.  I am  

> planning on making the short hop over to Ashburn to the fire ant  

> festival  on the 28th.

>

> I just want to be legal just in case someone is checking.  I have  

> an old chart that went out of date 6 months ago and an old AFD  

> from September 08.

>

> In my area  things pretty much stay the same so I don't see a need  

> to update that often.

>

> Grant

 I've gone places before without current charts and I'll never do  

 that again .

 Even local flights you want the updated chart or GPS database. My  

 GPS database is something like 3 years old, and I lost the  

 connector thing to update it.

 So I always have a current chart at the very least and a current  

 AFD if I can find one (that's needed to be legal as well).

 One of the local airports suddenly became towered just recently. I  

 was flying with a friend of mine in his RV on a trip and on the  

 return trip we noticed a tower directing traffic there on the comm....

 My chart in my plane had expired only a couple weeks before, so  

 after we landed I went and got an updated one. Sure enough, there  

 was the towered field on it.....

 LS

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 LS

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