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An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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I glassed in/on the fairing on my RV-7A…no big deal. Dirty, messy, sanding, but not difficult or complicated. I’d like to see how an aluminum fairing would look nicer than a nice job of glass at this intersection point of an RV, of all the things on my plane, I’m pretty proud of how mine came out. I’d just do the glass again, I think.
Bob Brown
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:07 PM
To: RV-10 matronics
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Wind screen fairing |
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I glassed mine, and would do so again. It seems to me that it would be at least as much work, if not more, to trim the metal fairing to a good fit. I would make one change from Van's instructions. If you make all pieces of your layup full length it is going to be pretty thick at the door opening, and will be difficult to get a smooth transition to the door. I have seen several -10s with a noticeable bulge in this area. I made the first 4 layers of my layup full length, then cut each additional layer 1" shorter than the previous layer on each end. No bulge.
Jim Berry
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chuck(at)chuckdirect.com
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:24 am Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam (daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com)
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
To: RV-10 matronics (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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I would have considered the mlskunkworks fairing but it was not available when I did my windscreen. It seems like it would save some work on the front end and might be pretty nice in the event you ever have to remove your windshield.
David Maib
40559
On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote:
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam (daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com)
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
To: RV-10 matronics (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:57 am Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am asking for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield removal issues later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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I’m interested in this as well. One of the areas that’s been a concern for me is replacing the windshield. I recently replaced the windshield on my Cherokee, which was a pretty straightforward job and didn’t really mess up the paint job. At some point in time, I imagine that the RV-10 windshield will need to be replaced due to cracks, scratches, or crazing. It make take 10-20 years for the windshield to get that bad, but I think it’s just a question of time. It would be nice to talk to any RV-10 builder that has installed these fairings to get their opinion. Has anyone asked M L Blue Skunk for reference RV-10 builder’s names?
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Wind screen fairing
I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am asking for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield removal issues later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wind screen fairing
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam (daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com)
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
To: RV-10 matronics (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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bkbrown(at)minetfiber.com
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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I’d just reiterate my input that…I cannot imagine a cleaner intersection on these RV’s (4,6,7,8,9,10) than what is already out there. I just cannot. The fleet has not had these problems to much of a degree and, especially when the windows are secured with adhesive (I used sikaflex on my 7A). You say 10 or 20 years, I have owned a lot of airplanes that had windscreens older than that which remained serviceable…so I think to some degree it depends what you’re willing to fly behind…
I’m not saying don’t go for sheet metal fairing solution, but understand that when you apply solutions to (what I’d consider in this case) non problems, sometimes you get less than what you started with, especially with thousands of flying examples using a technique that is well known, easily accomplished and well documented. That would seem to be the case here…but I have not seen an installation with a metal fairing, only hundreds done the glass/micro/layup way. I am biased, I guess, I think they look great, and in fact are in my opinion one of the big selling points of the basic RV design…
Bob Brown
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:54 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Wind screen fairing
I’m interested in this as well. One of the areas that’s been a concern for me is replacing the windshield. I recently replaced the windshield on my Cherokee, which was a pretty straightforward job and didn’t really mess up the paint job. At some point in time, I imagine that the RV-10 windshield will need to be replaced due to cracks, scratches, or crazing. It make take 10-20 years for the windshield to get that bad, but I think it’s just a question of time. It would be nice to talk to any RV-10 builder that has installed these fairings to get their opinion. Has anyone asked M L Blue Skunk for reference RV-10 builder’s names?
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:56 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Wind screen fairing
I am not asking as much from the standpoint of difficulty, as I am asking for functionality regarding cracking and potential windshield removal issues later. Thanks for the replies so far!
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wind screen fairing
Piece of cake. Follow Van's instructions to the letter and it's easy...just takes time, that's all (two days?). And the transition from top to plexy will be smoooooth as glass (pun intended). This is my second. Built a 'nine' too.
Chuck
From: Dave Leikam (daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com)
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:06 PM
To: RV-10 matronics (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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Dave, we installed a metal fairing that Bud Warren fabricated. He had done it before and was up to the challenge. I think it came out quite nice. May save a paint job down the road should the windshield need replacement. The installation was the easy part. Bud spent several hours fashioning the fairing from a piece of sheet metal. This job is for the experienced, not a novice or else you will probably be disappointed.
Bill Gipson
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:07 AM
To: RV-10 matronics
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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Is the fairing one piece? Can you post some close up pics? Thanks.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: Wind screen fairing |
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Was at the airport this weekend and got these close-ups as requested. The fairing is two pieces with a knuckle joint in the center. The fairing is held on with rivnuts and the void between the fairing and winshield/skin is filled with black RTV for water-tight seal.
Regards,
Bill Gipson
RV-10 Flying
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
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Subject: Re: Wind screen fairing
Is the fairing one piece? Can you post some close up pics? Thanks.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Wind screen fairing
Dave, we installed a metal fairing that Bud Warren fabricated. He had done it before and was up to the challenge. I think it came out quite nice. May save a paint job down the road should the windshield need replacement. The installation was the easy part. Bud spent several hours fashioning the fairing from a piece of sheet metal. This job is for the experienced, not a novice or else you will probably be disappointed.
Bill Gipson
N720WL
LS1 powered RV-10
Conroe, Texas
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:07 AM
To: RV-10 matronics
Subject: Wind screen fairing
An aluminum fairing is available for the RV-10 wind screen. Has anyone installed one of these? For those who have glassed in their wind screen, would you use a fairing if you had to do it again?
http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Windscreen_Fairings.html
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA (Reserved)
Muskego, WI
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