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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

Guys I am looking at getting 2 David Clark H 10 -13 4 headsets and I see that a stereo model is available. It isnt much more in price and was wondering if anyone thinks it is worth getting over the standard model.

Shall import them from USA as the prices here are rediculous!

Chris VH-ICY
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Headsets Reply with quote

The answer is, "How is your plane wired?"
If you have stereo jacks in place, then using mono headphones will result in shorting out one channel (which your audio panel should but may not handle okay). When you play music, you'll only hear one side of the music (but in both ears).

If you have mono jacks in place, then with stereo phones you will hear no sound in one ear.

Many headphones have switches to semi-fix these problems (e.g., convert stereo headphones to mono); there are also adapters available.

I'm wiring for stereo; with CD's, XM, etc., I can tell a small improvement with stereo vs mono in the sound quality of the music. Of course, for the radio and intercom, it makes no difference. So it only matters for stereo music.

One small note: The original Garmin audio panels were wired in such a way that they are "fail safe", e.g., if the audio panel power is turned off, you can still hear the #1 com - but this only works if you have a stereo headset! (Or use a stereo to mono adapter).


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

Chris,
� It sounds like you have settled on your headset choice so I won’t push too hard ESPECIALLY because I have never tried the DC 10-13’s but I have owned David Clark’s, Flight Comm Denali II’s, Bose X, Sigtonics, Lightspeed 20’s & 30G’s. With the exception of a few $100 headsets the DC’s were the lease comfortable, poorest performing of the lot. If I were buying headsets today I prefer the Zulu and I do like my Bose but don’t think they are the “ultimate” any more. I actually like my Denali’s too.
Comfort & performance, the DC’s I have used had neither.
Sometimes there are discounts during SNF, maybe you could take advantage of that or ask someone at SNF to report back any deals.

Party pooper,
Robin
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Guys I am looking at getting 2 David Clark H 10 -13 4 headsets and I see that a stereo model is available. It isnt much more in price and was wondering if anyone thinks it is worth getting over the standard model.



Shall import them from USA as the prices here are rediculous!



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

Thanks Bob great answer I am upgrading my poverty panel as well and will be
putting in a Garmin GMA 340 audio panel which I believe is stereo but will
find out

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

Thanks Robin I have a open mind but cost is a huge factor on fireman wages.

Chris
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Headsets Reply with quote

The Garmin 340 does support stereo music. It's also the panel I referred to - the "fail safe" com 1 radio goes to the ring, or middle, connector, so it will fail to be fail safe if you use a mono plug!

I have flown behind both the 340 and the PS8000 panel (same plane). If you are really interested in music, the PS8000 is audibly superior (and I am not a music critic) even in a noisy airplane. If you're not all that into music, they perform pretty much the same otherwise (Garmin has a manual intercom squelch but in my experience it worked just fine) and the 340 is less expensive.

I also much prefer how the PS panel lets you switch the music between front and rear. The newer Garmin panel (347?) imitates the PS8000 in this and other ways.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

10-4 on saving where one can.
I picked up 4 used Denali’s for less than $200 each. Maybe that is why I like them so much.
Aren’t the DC 10-13’s near $600 ea. Delivered?
Good luck
Robin

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Thanks Robin I have a open mind but cost is a huge factor on fireman wages.



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Chris,
� It sounds like you have settled on your headset choice so I won’t push too hard ESPECIALLY because I have never tried the DC 10-13’s but I have owned David Clark’s, Flight Comm Denali II’s, Bose X, Sigtonics, Lightspeed 20’s & 30G’s. With the exception of a few $100 headsets the DC’s were the lease comfortable, poorest performing of the lot. If I were buying headsets today I prefer the Zulu and I do like my Bose but don’t think they are the “ultimate” any more. I actually like my Denali’s too.
Comfort & performance, the DC’s I have used had neither.
Sometimes there are discounts during SNF, maybe you could take advantage of that or ask someone at SNF to report back any deals.

Party pooper,
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Susie
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:19 PM
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Subject: Headsets



Guys I am looking at getting 2 David Clark H 10 -13 4 headsets and I see that a stereo model is available. It isnt much more in price and was wondering if anyone thinks it is worth getting over the standard model.



Shall import them from USA as the prices here are rediculous!



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Headsets Reply with quote

Robin about $440 AUS .I get them sent to Florida where a mate sends them as a present so i pay no tax.
I have seen them here in shops for $660 AUS . Now thats a mark up!

Chris

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