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William Dominguez



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:42 am    Post subject: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

I've been practicing driving solid rivets, have tried different ways and my problem is that the shop head is coming out to much to the side. I'm using and arbor press and after I hit the first or second blow with the hammer the shank immediately start leaning.

I have realized that the solid rivets that I purchased in ZAC might be too long. I ordered AN470-AD-5-9 and based on this table;

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/solidalumrivets.php

they are supposed to be 5/32 x 9/16. However, the ones provided by ZAC measure 5/32 x 5/8, that is one size longer. Could this be the problem?, I'm I missing something?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

Bill;
Solid rivets are very sensitive to length, so you should get the correct length for the joint you are making.

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I've been practicing driving solid rivets, have tried different ways and my problem is that the shop head is coming out to much to the side. I'm using and arbor press and after I hit the first or second blow with the hammer the shank immediately start leaning.

I have realized that the solid rivets that I purchased in ZAC might be too long. I ordered AN470-AD-5-9 and based on this table;

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/solidalumrivets.php

they are supposed to be 5/32 x 9/16. However, the ones provided by ZAC measure 5/32 x 5/8, that is one size longer. Could this be the problem?, I'm I missing something?
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
http://www.geocities.com/bill_dom
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

William-
From my experience, they're too long. Try grinding 1-16"-1/8" off and see if they set better. Won't cost you anything to try.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

Yes, I just shortened one of them a little bit and it went a lot better, thanks. When the protruding length is 1.5 the diameter of the shank it create a more concentric shop head. I also realized that ZAC did send me the right ones but I was measuring it the wrong way. However, the protruding side is still a bit longer than 1.5 x shank diameter. I also have noticed that when the hole is tight it help create a more concentric shop head but because I'm using the same hole over and over for my practice, the hole gets bigger and this make the shank lean a bit more.

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William-
From my experience, they're too long. Try grinding 1-16"-1/8" off and see if they set better. Won't cost you anything to try.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

Glad to hear it worked out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Need help with solid rivets. Reply with quote

You need to buy a "Rivet cutter" and cut those rivets down with some experimenting. I use solid rivets to install nutplates, and have to cut those little rivets down halfway between what ZAC sent and what I bought from ACS.

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