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TELEDYNMCS(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: Lancair vs. Europa |
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In a message dated 4/17/2009 3:03:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, europa-list(at)matronics.com writes:
| Quote: | Almost an insult that, John? Lancair might look pretty but it doesn't
fly pretty imho. Neibaur neglected to employ an aerodynamicist. Ivan had
Don Dykins who is a genius. (imho) |
Hey Graham,
Well, I didn't take it that way, and I'm reasonably sure they were speaking more about the lines of my Europa, as opposed to the flight characteristics. However, I have had at least one first hand account regarding the Lancair 320 that echoes those sentiments that made me glad I built a Europa.
The wife and I were out on a site seeing and lunch flight one cold winter day a year or so ago. It was one of those crystal clear winter days when you can see 100 miles. We stopped at Elizabethton, TN, for a bite to eat after flying around over in the Smokey Mountains looking at recent snow that had fallen on the mountain tops. There was this fellow on the ramp who was preparing to depart in a 320 for New Jersey. I stepped out of my Europa wearing only a tee shirt, (my cabin heat works very well) but quickly had to grab a jacket. This fellow was wearing a snowmobile suit. We struck up a conversation on the ramp and as I chatted with him I couldn't resist asking why he was wearing such heavy clothing when he was about to depart on a 3 hour flight. He said "Because my heater doesn't work very well". Continuing the conversation, he commented that he limited his airport preferences to strips with at least 3500' and only paved strips because the 320 didn't slow down very well and was "a handful" to land. Apparently, it takes quite a bit of runway to take off, too. He also went on to comment how uncomfortable the seats were. Overall, he didn't sound all that impressed with his creation. It was pretty to look at, though.
I had taken a long, serious look at the 320 before I decided to build a Europa. That day I smiled all the way home.
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:21 am Post subject: Lancair vs. Europa |
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Hmmm interesting, I was thinking about building a lancair ES or IV once my XS is flying
maybe I should look elseware.
craig
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garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:14 am Post subject: Lancair vs. Europa |
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You might take a long look at the RV series of planes. More Europa builders have gone on to build RV's than any other type of plane, at least in the US.
Garry Stout
Europa Trigear, RV7A
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rampil
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Lancair vs. Europa |
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Of course, for those with the true need for speed, there is always the
"egg." An acquaintance of mine thinks the Venture is going to come back.
Flys with better pitch stability than the Lancairs according to several
printed reviews.
There are quite a few RV3-8s at my aerodrome and they are a lot of
fun to fly, but not very pitch stable (in my hands). The Europa, which
was not designed for IFR, seems to me a better platform for it than
the RV series. Maybe the 10 is better, I have not tried it myself yet 
Ira
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