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Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location

 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
Could anyone please tell me if they have the tunnel ribs which feature the revised location and orientation for the fuel valve bracket (Ref. Section 27, Rev 1.0 drawings).
 
If you do, could you please measure the distance from the bottom of the rib to the centre of the mounting holes.

Vans tell me that this revision negates the need to squash the scat tubing in the tunnel.

For those of you that have installed the Andair fuel valve, could you please indicate what mounting bracket you used (I'm guessing that you made your own), as the Vans supplied bracket does not fit the Andair valve, as the bolt holes and central hole do not line up?

Many thanks in anticipation for your responses.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
Hi Pat,

I actually build one my own just bending two flanges on apiece of sheet metal. I installed it way down near the bottom skin in the tunnel and used the Andair extension since I plan to have the fuel selector be integrated in a future center console.
Here are some pictures but it doesn't show the final stage. I'll try to get them done tomorrow and will post them here.

http://wellenzohn.net/Fuelsystem_web/index.html

by the way check out my new website (test phase)

http://wellenzohn.net/HBYNN/index.html

Cheers
Michael

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
I received a "hybrid" QB fuselage: old style fuel valve, mounting bracket (already installed), plumbing. New style tunnel cover (with cloverleaf hole), valve extension, handle, instructions (imagine the confusion!).
Vans said they'd support whichever configuration I wanted, so I had them send me the new style mounting bracket and valve. So I had no pre-punched holes to go with, but I put the new holes 3.5" down from the top of the center ribs. Hope this helps. BTW, with the long arm extension, getting the angle, and fore-aft correct was more important than the depth (you can always shim the depth with washers) since I already had the cloverleaf hole in the tunnel cover. Also, it took a few back and forth emails with Vans to convince them that they had sent the wrong spring for the handle. After they realized there was a problem, they sent a letter to recent buyers. Everyone involved should have received the new spring by now. If you're going the Andair route, this doesn't affect you, of course.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
That bracket threw me for a loop. Some drawings show it flanges up and some show it flanges down.

I ended up making an adapter plate to go on top of the bracket and mounted the Andair valve to that using the extension. It may not have been the easiest way, but it all fits nice and I have no scat clearance problem.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
"That bracket threw me for a loop. Some drawings show it flanges up and some show it flanges down."

The "old style" is flanges down, bracket mounted high in the tunnel. The "new style" is flanges up, bracket mounted about 3.5" lower. AND, the two brackets (new and old) are not identical. Nor are the fuel valves.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
Many thanks Bob.

Regards Pat

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I received a "hybrid" QB fuselage: old style fuel valve, mounting bracket (already installed), plumbing. New style tunnel cover (with cloverleaf hole), valve extension, handle, instructions (imagine the confusion!).
Vans said they'd support whichever configuration I wanted, so I had them send me the new style mounting bracket and valve. So I had no pre-punched holes to go with, but I put the new holes 3.5" down from the top of the center ribs. Hope this helps. BTW, with the long arm extension, getting the angle, and fore-aft correct was more important than the depth (you can always shim the depth with washers) since I already had the cloverleaf hole in the tunnel cover. Also, it took a few back and forth emails with Vans to convince them that they had sent the wrong spring for the handle. After they realized there was a problem, they sent a letter to recent buyers. Everyone involved should have received the new spring by now. If you're going the Andair route, this doesn't affect you, of course.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
Many thanks Myron.

Regards

Pat

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That bracket threw me for a loop. Some drawings show it flanges up and some show it flanges down.

I ended up making an adapter plate to go on top of the bracket and mounted the Andair valve to that using the extension. It may not have been the easiest way, but it all fits nice and I have no scat clearance problem.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Andair Fuel Valve Bracket & Location Reply with quote
Thanks Bob. I thought that the brackets were different, although Vans stated that they were the same!

Regards

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"That bracket threw me for a loop. Some drawings show it flanges up and some show it flanges down."

The "old style" is flanges down, bracket mounted high in the tunnel. The "new style" is flanges up, bracket mounted about 3.5" lower. AND, the two brackets (new and old) are not identical. Nor are the fuel valves.

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