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jblake207(at)COMCAST.NET
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 Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: SNF Attendance |
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Given the SNF attendance has continued to decline over the last few years, for various reasons, what are you're predictions for continued attendance at SNF? Maybe it’s time SNF leadership started thinking about a different approach to customer satisfaction. Both from an airplane owner and traditional GA attendee's perspective. JB
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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: SNF Attendance |
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For me its a time to get to see old friends once again. I look passed the culture its leadership that seems to use the good fellowship of the aviation community, for some kind of financial gain. I go there for my self - not them. I do get to see the latest stuff that's coming on line and buy some neat stuff at show prices. One of the things I saw this year was a flying motorcycle. Folding wings, telescoping tail, and ducted fan engine 2 seater. I bet it works. I also saw a new kit glass job that will fly coast to coast at 200mph. Plus getting a close up look at the different LSA stuff. Also I get to hobnob with my Aeroshell buddies. If you think our debriefs are brutal - you should set in on theirs!
Flying the show - to me - takes a certain discipline to pull it off without someone getting hurt. Not everyone does it well. Some get to intimidated to even try. Others are quickly asked to stand down. Yes some of the big iron guys fuckup big time, in tune with their egos. IE The Wild Cat pilot who pitched up into our altitude instead of level as instructed. Of course he than proceeded to lose her and ground loop her into the grass on the same landing. He wasn't seen the rest of show. While the show might be great for your ego, there is no place in the show for egos to go unbounded.
It will be a long time before I see them paying for all your expenses to go to the show. For none of us lowly formation warbird guys, have the crowed appeal that the acro, military jets, and honest to God acro teams do.
I believe the perception of a poor economy (real or not) didn't help. Also the show up at Cecil in honor of Allen cause a number of guys to have to make a choice of either that or SnF. Plus 5 of our number decided to do the Bahamas and were just to popped to pop by the time they arrived there. So it goes.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 4/26/2009 7:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jblake207(at)COMCAST.NET writes:
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Given the SNF attendance has continued to decline over the last few years, for various reasons, what are you're predictions for continued attendance at SNF? Maybe it’s time SNF leadership started thinking about a different approach to customer satisfaction. Both from an airplane owner and traditional GA attendee's perspective. JB
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From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:50:17 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: What is your typical oil consumption?
My M-14p is using about 1 1/2 qts per hour. Oil consumption has gone up since new but that was 1500 hours ago.. All rings (except # 9) have over 1000 hours on them. Low cylinder is 72/80. I use nothing but 60wt detergent oil and 50wt when it gets a little cooler. Have 10 micron filter which is still very clean (no metal) after each change. I run cruise at 2000 rpm/28mp and acro at 2400 rpm and 32-33 mp. I have the top end of the governor set at 2850. Temp is usually at 150 to 160C cylinders and oil temp out is around 100C.
I am planning to go to gap less rings, flat head close tolerance pistons and perhaps with "O" ring valve seals. Because of the high time on the bottom end, I don't like the idea of boosting up the horsepower to God knows what. Besides money IS the constrainting factor. Hopefully if my retirement fund turn around enough to make my wife feel comfortable, I hope to do this later this year. Maybe this "top" over haul, will see me though my old age.  )
BTW, Back from Sun&Fun. Three years ago was the "Hay Year". Last year was the "Mud Year". This year will be known as the "Soot Year". The airport authority at LAL decided to burn the aircraft tiedown area after cutting it and not finding any one to bale the left over hay. Of course the rains did not come! The result was blowing black soot everywhere. Just walking though it kicked up black clouds. People looked like Al Jolson look a- likes. I caught sight of the T-6 guys right after starting engine for the show. It looked like all of them had way over rich mixtures. A number of WBs left early because of it. As it was the count from last year was down 30%. Saturday's crowed was OK but the earlier part of the week was way way off.
RPA again put up the most A/C. but our numbers were way down too. The most we put up on one day was 8. The last day we put up 6 but that included 2 orphaned T-34 guys. The T-6 guys were lucky to get 4 for the "Missing Man" salute.
Boggs has tighten up the show and run-in lines. It requires some very precise flying on the part of the lead. Flying with my canopy open, I had the "experience" on landing of feeling the blast and the HEAT, when "Dynamite" set off a charge between me and a Wildcat flat out and level with me, on a "strafing" pattern. Great fun.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 4/26/2009 3:37:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yakplt(at)yahoo.com writes:
| Quote: | 1 quart = 0.946 liter. My M-14P has burnt about 1 liter per hour since new. Every M-14 (except for one) that I have worked on burnt that much or more. Nothing wrong with that amount of usage unless you see it leaking out all over the engine compartment obviously. I have been told that filling the oil tank all the way to the top and then doing hard acro is not a bright move as it will spew oil everywhere. I have found personally that this seems to be true, especially with negative G stuff. When planning that kind of flight, I usually plan on having a total of 9-10 liters showing on the stick (these are short flights and the oil is checked after each flight). There are also a few folks who claim less oil consumption and lower oil temps when doing hard acro in hot weather switching to straight 60 weight oil. I haven't tried that yet, but plan to. Not recommended for cold weather ops of course.
The one exception to this usage was an specially modified M-14 that used gapless rings and re-machined valve guides with "O" ring seals. The pistons had also been changed with a tighter tolerance and a 3 ring piston vice 4. This beast ran cool, the oil stayed clean and did not turn black, no oil ran out the pipes after flying, and oil usage went to close to ZERO. Tom Johnson's YAK-50 has these mods, and so did Sergei Boriak's Suke. I think Bill Blackwell is offering this mod now and boy would I love to be able to afford it.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: N642K <mdecanio(at)mac.com>
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:51:13 PM
Subject: Yak-List: What is your typical oil consumption?
--> Yak-List message posted by: "N642K" <mdecanio(at)mac.com (mdecanio(at)mac.com)>
Curious about my oil consumption and how it relates to the group as a whole. I'm typically burning a little less than a quart an hour in my Housai. About 250 hours since first overhaul. Occasionally more. How about you?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: SNF Attendance |
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Very well said Pappy, and interesting to read. Thank you.
Mark Bitterlich
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