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rv(at)thelefflers.com
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:02 am Post subject: Air vent question

For those that installed an overhead console with air vents:  

   

What did you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with your decision?  

   

If you removed the vent and permanently close the opening or you left the vent per plans , any regrets in doing so?  

   

As you might surmise, I’m trying to decide what to do myself and am looking for other opinions and data points to help me make a decision.   At the moment, I’m leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing the opening.   I think that the overhead vent will be able to deliver ample air via two new naca vents in the tailcone.  I would also think this would minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the vents.  

   

Thanks,  

   

Bob  

#40684  

mykitlog.com/rleffler  

   

   

   

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Air vent question

Bob,  

   

I removed the internal hinging mechanism, glassed them over on the outside and had Abby make my interior side panels without the notch.  No regrets at all!  Plenty of air from the OH vents, in fact, I think that 2 NACA vents feeding the overhead is actually overkill.    

   

Bob   

N442PM (flying)  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler

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For those that installed an overhead console with air vents:  

   

What did you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with your decision?  

   

If you removed the vent and permanently close the opening or you left the vent per plans , any regrets in doing so?  

   

As you might surmise, I’m trying to decide what to do myself and am looking for other opinions and data points to help me make a decision.   At the moment, I’m leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing the opening.   I think that the overhead vent will be able to deliver ample air via two new naca vents in the tailcone.  I would also think this would minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the vents.  

   

Thanks,  

   

Bob  

#40684  

mykitlog.com/rleffler  

   

   

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jump2(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: Air vent question

I kept mine just because they were already there and sometime it good to get air from more then one directions.Just like dthe forward vents. The two scoops on side produce a lot of air thats for sure. Overhead has a lot of air and lots of leaks that has to be addressed in the future.

imhop

Patrick Thyssen

hunk  is flying.



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From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>

Subject: RE: RV10-List: Air vent question

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 1:49 PM



                 

Bob,   

     

I removed the internal hinging mechanism, glassed them over on the outside and had Abby make my interior side panels without the notch.  No regrets at all!  Plenty of air from the OH vents, in fact, I think that 2 NACA vents feeding the overhead is actually overkill.     

     

Bob    

N442PM (flying)   

           

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler

 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 1:01 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Air vent question   

  

     

For those that installed an overhead console with air vents:   

     

What did you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with your decision?   

     

If you removed the vent and permanently close the opening or you left the vent per plans , any regrets in doing so?   

     

As you might surmise, Iâ€™m trying to decide what to do myself and am looking for other opinions and data points to help me make a decision.   At the moment, Iâ€™m leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing the opening.   I think that the overhead vent will be able to deliver ample air via two new naca vents in the tailcone.  I would also think this would minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the vents.   

     

Thanks,   

     

Bob   

#40684   

mykitlog.com/rleffler   

     

     

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: Air vent question

Hi Bob,

  

 With the overhead console, I really don't think you  need the side air vents, or at least in my plane I wouldn't. The overheads in my  plane deliver a lot of air. With the side ones closed off it would also make  your interior work easier. The only consideration might be that the air is  blowing on or around the passengers head vs coming in from the side. But I  really don't think that's  big deal. If I were doing it over I might  consider doing what you're thinking of.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602WT

  

             Time:      11:02:34 AM PST  US            From:      "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)>            Subject:      Air vent    question       

      For those that installed an overhead console  with air vents:

       

      

      What did  you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with  your

       decision?

      

       

      If you removed the vent and permanently close  the opening or you left the

      vent per plans ,  any regrets in doing so?

       

      

      As you  might surmise, I'm trying to decide what to do myself and am  looking

      for other opinions and data points to  help me make a decision.   At the

       moment, I'm leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing  the

      opening.   I think that the  overhead vent will be able to deliver ample  air

      via two new naca vents in the  tailcone.  I would also think this would

       minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the  vents.

      

       

      Thanks,

       

      

       Bob

      

       #40684

      



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john(at)trollingers.com
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: Air vent question

When did you put the naca vents in the tail cone as I am thinking of doing the overhead console thing as well, but my tail cone is already built.



On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e(at)grandecom.net (wayne.e(at)grandecom.net)> wrote:

 [quote]       Hi Bob,

  

 With the overhead console, I really don't think you  need the side air vents, or at least in my plane I wouldn't. The overheads in my  plane deliver a lot of air. With the side ones closed off it would also make  your interior work easier. The only consideration might be that the air is  blowing on or around the passengers head vs coming in from the side. But I  really don't think that's  big deal. If I were doing it over I might  consider doing what you're thinking of.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602WT

  

             Time:      11:02:34 AM PST  US            From:      "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)>             Subject:      Air vent    question       

      For those that installed an overhead console  with air vents:

       

      

      What did  you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with  your

       decision?

      

       

      If you removed the vent and permanently close  the opening or you left the

      vent per plans ,  any regrets in doing so?

       

      

      As you  might surmise, I'm trying to decide what to do myself and am  looking

      for other opinions and data points to  help me make a decision.   At the

       moment, I'm leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing  the

      opening.   I think that the  overhead vent will be able to deliver ample  air

      via two new naca vents in the  tailcone.  I would also think this would

       minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the  vents.

      

       

      Thanks,

       

      

       Bob

      

       #40684

      



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Eric_Kallio

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 149
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Air vent question

You can put them on at just about any time. I installed mine while I was still fitting the canopy and the forward tailcone skin was still off, but I can see how it could be done at any time by pulling the panels for the tailcone access.



Eric Kallio

rv(at)thelefflers.com
Guest

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: Air vent question

You can put the naca vents in at any time.   It  isn’t a big deal until the canopy and the top skin of the tail cone are permanently installed.  I haven’t cut the hole yet in my tail cone, but will most likely be doing it right after I attach the tail cone to the fuselage.  

   

Bob  

   

     

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Trollinger

 Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:11 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Air vent question  

  

   

When did you put the naca vents in the tail cone as I am thinking of doing the overhead console thing as well, but my tail cone is already built.    

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e(at)grandecom.net (wayne.e(at)grandecom.net)> wrote:      

Hi Bob,  

    

   

    

With the overhead console, I really don't think you need the side air vents, or at least in my plane I wouldn't. The overheads in my plane deliver a lot of air. With the side ones closed off it would also make your interior work easier. The only consideration might be that the air is blowing on or around the passengers head vs coming in from the side. But I really don't think that's  big deal. If I were doing it over I might consider doing what you're thinking of.  

    

   

    

Wayne Edgerton N602WT  

    

   

            

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"Bob Leffler"   <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)>        

           

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Air vent question        

      

       For those that installed an overhead console with air vents:

       

       

       What did you do with the standard rear seat vents?  Are you happy with your

       decision?

       

       

       If you removed the vent and permanently close the opening or you left the

       vent per plans , any regrets in doing so?

       

       

       As you might surmise, I'm trying to decide what to do myself and am looking

       for other opinions and data points to help me make a decision.   At the

       moment, I'm leaning towards removing the vent and permanently closing the

       opening.   I think that the overhead vent will be able to deliver ample air

       via two new naca vents in the tailcone.  I would also think this would

       minimize the chance for rain and other objects to come in through the vents.

       

       

       Thanks,

       

       

       Bob

       

       #40684

         

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woxofswa

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 349
Location: AZ

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Air vent question

I filled mine in solid.  In my opinion, while simple and efficient, they looked tacky and "homemade", and made a nice finished interior sidewall difficult.



I am definitely doing an overhead panel and most likely air conditioning.

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: Air vent question

John,

  

 I put mine in after the fact, so that's not an  issue, however I bought one of the first overheads from Tony S and his plan  called for an air intake at the base of the VS incorporated into the fairing. It  was something of a pain to put in if I'm honest. But I see now where most are  putting the naca vents just behind the baggage wall area which is a much easier  way than the way I did mine. If I were building now I would be doing it that  way.

  

 Wayne Edgerton N602WT

  

  

             Time:      06:11:51 AM PST  US            Subject:      Re: Air vent    question            From:      John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)>       

      When did you put the naca vents in the tail  cone as I am thinking of doing

      the overhead  console thing as well, but my tail cone is already  built.

      



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John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 130
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: Air vent question

Like most folks, I put my NACA vents right behind the baggage compartment. In hindsight, the pressure is probably higher farther aft. I did have some concern with disturbing the flow over the static vents, though, so may farther forward is OK after all. Finally, most people who post seem to think that there's adequate flow from the more forward location.FWIW

John



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I put mine in after the fact, so that's not an issue, however I bought one of the first overheads from Tony S and his plan called for an air intake at the base of the VS incorporated into the fairing. It was something of a pain to put in if I'm honest. But I see now where most are putting the naca vents just behind the baggage wall area which is a much easier way than the way I did mine. If I were building now I would be doing it that way.

 

Wayne Edgerton N602WT

 

 

Time:06:11:51 AM PST USSubject:Re: Air vent questionFrom:John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)>      

      When did you put the naca vents in the tail cone as I am thinking of doing

      the overhead console thing as well, but my tail cone is already built.

      



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