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keithmckinley

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: riveting, bolting, question?

I would like to remove the pull out tray and put in another u channel cross brace so that I can skin the whole section with a sheet of aluminum rather that just the slide out tray. I will mount a smoke tank as well as the battery and one inverter (the other is coming out)



The sheet will only go as far as the current brace in the fore ground so that I don't impede access to my air tank.



Thoughts on the pitfalls of this plan. Also would it be OK to pop rivet the new u channel with the L-brackets or should I use screws. Same question for the sheet aluminum base. 



I'm afraid I have only done pop riveting.

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: riveting, bolting, question?

Keith,In my opinion it would add time to the job and the finished job would be less than professional if you attempt to do the task you describe using nuts and bolts, or heaven forbid---ARGH!, pop rivets, it would also add time/cost to inspections or any other reason which might cause you to remove it in the future.  For the cleanest most professional job you should consider installing it in riveted assemblies, those assemblies should then be installed in the aircraft with nut plates thus making the entire installation easily removable in a short amount of time.   This might seem a bit more trouble up front but it will save you a bunch of money later if you or whoever is doing your condition inspection needs to remove them.

 



Have you considered placing the battery under the surface of the baggage compartment??  The newer style sealed batteries make this possible, and the savings in space is in my opinion worth while.  The inverter can be mounted most anywhere, seems a waste of space to put it in the area where you could pack baggage.  Who knows--- you may have to bring the beer next time.

 



Riveting is not hard to do/learn, buy yourself some tools, get someone to look over your shoulder and go at it.  

Doug



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 I would like to remove the pull out this tray and put in another u channel cross brace so that I can skin the whole section with a sheet of aluminum rather that just the slide out tray. I will mount a smoke tank as well as the battery and one inverter (the other is coming out)

  

 The sheet will only go as far as the current brace in the fore ground so that I don't impede access to my air tank.

 

 Thoughts on the pitfalls of this plan. Also would it be OK to pop rivet the new u channel with the L-brackets or should I use screws. Same question for the sheet aluminum base.

 

 I'm afraid I have only done pop riveting.

 

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keithmckinley

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: riveting, bolting, question?

Thanks Doug,



I'm pretty picky so I wouldn't have used pop rivets but it sure would be nice to learn how to really rivet.



I like your idea. I actually have a sealed battery and if you notice, a nice baggage compartment as well (the rear wall is in the picture) which holds a tremendous amount of beer.



It makes total sense to remove the floor and look for a spot underneath for the battery tray and inverter. I never even thought about that!



Have you ever seen the inverter mounted on that frame between the two cockpits where some of the other electrical gear is located?



I could then use that current sliding tray set up for the smoke tank and pump.



Keith

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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: riveting, bolting, question?

Keith,

I agree with every thing Doug said and would add that future inspections and repairs or modifications

are easily done when you can unbolt and remove these assemblies. You might consider cherry rivets from Aircraft Spruce

for the smaller assemblies .

Terry Lewis                   



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