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Thanks for the tip, Jim. Congratulations on finally receiving some flyable weather there in Cookeville. We're still waiting (along with the Shuttle) for calm weather in Florida!
Dave
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1. 03:42 AM - older firestar (Ted Cowan)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: older firestar (Mike Welch)
3. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (b young)
4. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (loseyf(at)comcast.net (loseyf(at)comcast.net))
5. 10:42 AM - Final at Monument Valley (dalewhelan)
6. 06:44 PM - Bing Carb Problem FYI (Jim Kmet)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 03:42:32 AM PST US
From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net (tc1917(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: older firestar
I am again going to chime in and mention something about SS rivets. If this
is an older Firestar, five rib, etc., you have better check the size and
thickness of the tubing. The older firestars had really thin tubing on the
leading and trailing edges. Now, it is my opinion (my opinion AND
experience) that if you are the first one to drill the holes, they are nice
and tight and MIGHT hold a SS rivet but you will really suffer if you have
to repair damage or recover later. If it is a repair job, the holes have
been reamed out by drilling or possibly someone used an oversized drill
(this was recommended way back when) to facilitate rivet installation, your
SS rivets might crack the holes, pull through or not even pop when
installed. (you are going to hate yourself in the morning). If you are
going to keep the bird in a hanger or trailer or whatever, the rivets are
going to only get minimal exposure to moister. Some of the builders put
anti rust stuff on the rivets before covering (if they were flying over
water) and I think that might be a good idea. Again, if you pull SS rivets
on these lightweight tubes, you are looking and are going to find trouble.
A bunch of you who have not rebuild a dozen of these crafts in the last ten
or twelve years, are going to resist or say bull s____t but, I am telling
you, dislike materials dont like each other to begin with, i.e., steel (SS)
rivets vs very thin alum.and you know what, alum usually looses. My
opinion. By the way, these suggestions were passed on to me by Dennis S.
back when I was a nubie at this. I have never had one come apart. Up to
you. Hope you have a great time. By the way, eliminating the silver
undercoat UV protectant-filler, you can save a ton of money and weight and
use the UV protection you add to the poly tone paint. Call Dolly and she
can explain it to you. Works for me. Lots of ways to save money and weight
for the ole five ribber. Have a great weekend. Thanks for the pics of MV.
Gotta do that some day. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot, 912, zoom zoom.
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:38:31 AM PST US
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: older firestar
| Quote: | Call Dolly and she
can explain it to you. Works for me. Lots of ways to save money and weigh
t
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| Quote: | for the ole five ribber. Have a great weekend. Thanks for the pics of MV.
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| Quote: | Gotta do that some day. Ted Cowan=2C Alabama=2C Slingshot=2C 912=2C zoom
zoom.
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Ted=2C
No argumment with your rivet experience or beliefs=2C but respectfully=2C
the lovely lady's name is Dondi=2C not Dolly. Unless=2C of course=2C we w
ere talking about Parton. She's lovely=2C too.
To clear matters up=2C were you making the point that we should use alumi
num rivets=2C instead of SS rivets? I recently bought a huge supply of SS
rivets=2C specifically for attaching my ailerons and flaps. Is it your opi
nion that a guy should just use aluminum ones?
Mike Welch
MkIII
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Time: 08:43:17 AM PST US
From: "b young" <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)>
Subject: RE: Re: Monument Valley
Is there a date for 2010 yet?
Every year it has been the weekend after mothers day.
Boyd Young
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 09:33:30 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: Monument Valley
From: loseyf(at)comcast.net (loseyf(at)comcast.net)
Thank you Sir. Looks like a great place, I have vacationed on Lake Powell, Bryce
and Zion....truly one of God's gifts!
Thanks
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