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swater6

Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 52
Location: Minnesota-KMIC/KANE

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: 801 accident

I saw this posted on the AOPA forum.  Sad news for a 801 flyer and passenger.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, not sure if they are members of the forum.  The aircraft is pictured on the Zenith photo section.



EDIT: reposted links that should work



http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=10466560&nav=1L7u



http://www.wreg.com/sns-ap-ms--planecrash,0,1897921.story



http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/media/01_1399X.txt



Photo of aircraft on Zenith site:

http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/photos5.html#campbell

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601 XL kit N596SW reserved
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage

www.scottwaters.com

Last edited by swater6 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:10 pm; edited 1 time in total

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: 801 accident

The links (as I received them) are all partial. Here is the FAA report:



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**   Report created 6/4/2009   Record 1

**

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IDENTIFICATION

  Regis#: 1399X        Make/Model: EXP       Description: ZENITH STOL CH801

  Date: 06/02/2009     Time: 2103



  Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: Fatal     Mid Air: N    Missing: N

  Damage: Destroyed



LOCATION

  City: CRYSTAL SPRINGS   State: MS   Country: US



DESCRIPTION

  AIRCRAFT SHORTLY AFTER DEPARTURE, CRASHED, THE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD WERE 

  FATALLY INJURED, NEAR COPIAH COUNTY AIRPORT, CRYSTAL SPRINGS, MS



INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   2

                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   1     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:



                 # Pass:   1     Fat:   1     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:



                 # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:

WEATHER: 22054Z VRB05KT 10SM FEW050 31/18 A2998



OTHER DATA

  Activity: Pleasure      Phase: Unknown      Operation: OTHER

  FAA FSDO: JACKSON, MS  (SW31)                   Entry date: 06/03/2009



Here is the FAA N-number entry:



Serial Number	   	8-4399 	           	Type Registration

Co-Owner

Manufacturer Name 		CAMPBELL RICK 		Certificate Issue

Date 		02/15/2008

Model		ZENITH-STOL CH801 		Status 		Valid

Type Aircraft 		Fixed Wing Single-Engine 		Type Engine

Reciprocating

Pending Number Change		None 		Dealer		No

Date Change Authorized		None 		Mode S Code

50120111

MFR Year 		None 		Fractional Owner 		NO



Registered Owner



Name 	    	NEWMAN ROGER E

Street 		18 SWEETWATER CREEK RD

City 		TYLERTOWN 	State 	MISSISSIPPI 	  	Zip Code

39667-5836

County 		WALTHALL

Country 		UNITED STATES



-- Craig



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BobCollins

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 19
Location: Sunnyvale CA USA

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: 801 accident

Scott,

None of the links you posted work. They appear to have be corrupted in 

the middle.

Bob Collins



swater6 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I saw this posted on the AOPA forum.  Sad news for a 801 flyer and passenger.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, not sure if they are members of the forum.  The aircraft is pictured on the Zenith photo section.

 http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp...66560&nav=1L7u



 http://www.wreg.com/sns-ap-ms--plane...,1897921.story



 http://www.faa.gov/data_research/acc...a/01_1399X.txt



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 601 XL kit N596SW reserved

 Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage



 www.scottwaters.com

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: 801 accident

One news article from www.wtok.com:



"Two people were killed Tuesday in a small airplane crash near the Copiah

County airport.



James Ballow of Hazlehurst, a friend of both victims, identified the two

killed as Gary Mosley, of Hazlehurst, a flight instructor, and Steve Davis

of Brookhaven, an aircraft technician and licensed pilot. Davis was also a

firefighter and deputy in Lincoln County.



Authorities are trying to determine the cause of the 3:30 p.m. crash off

Lilly Road between Hazlehurst and Gallman. Witnesses told WJTV-TV in Jackson

that the plane was making an emergency landing when it crashed.



A phone message left with Larry Wells, an official with the Federal Aviation

Administration, was not immediately returned.



The National Transportation Safety Board will have an investigator on the

scene by the end of the week."



-- Craig

swater6

Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 52
Location: Minnesota-KMIC/KANE

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Sorry for the broken links. I've edited the original post and those work.

Scott

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601 XL kit N596SW reserved
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage

www.scottwaters.com

n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: 801 accident

Very sad day in the Zenith community,,, It was a nice looking plane too. 

http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/builder-pics/n1399x.jpg 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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john.marzulli(at)gmail.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: 801 accident

Is this the first fatal accident for an 801?



DO NOT ARCHIVE

John Marzulli



http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/

http://MarzulliPhoto.net/

 http://701Builder.blogspot.com/

 



On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com) <n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)> wrote:

 [quote]

Very sad day in the Zenith community,,, It was a nice looking plane too. 

http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/builder-pics/n1399x.jpg 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: 801 accident

I don’t think so. Wasn’t there the one in California where the autopsy found THC (from smoking pot) in the pilot’s body?  

   

-- Craig  

     

From: owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Marzulli

 Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:49 PM

 To: zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: 801 accident  

  

   

Is this the first fatal accident for an 801?    

   

    

DO NOT ARCHIVE  

    

 John Marzulli

 

 http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/

 http://MarzulliPhoto.net/

 http://701Builder.blogspot.com/

 

     

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:07 PM, n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com) <n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)> wrote:  

Very sad day in the Zenith community,,, It was a nice looking plane too.  

http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/builder-pics/n1399x.jpg  

do not archive

 

 

 Ben Haas

 N801BH

 www.haaspowerair.com    



 

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: 801 accident

That is correct. The second fatal crash I know of. The 801 has a pretty good track record... so far. <G>.



Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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Tom P

Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Beamsville, Ontario

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 801 accident

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20325344&BRD=1377&PAG=461&dept_id=172922&rfi=6



This link has a better description as to what happened.

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Tom CH801
Dynon D180
Lycoming IO-360 From Teledyne Mattituck
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tomp

lrm(at)skyhawg.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: 801 accident

Does anyone know what engine was in the 801?  Larry, N1345L



Tom P wrote:

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 http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid 325344&BRD=1377&PAG=461&dept_id=172922&rfi=6

 

 This link has a better description as to what happened.

 

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 Tom CH801

 Dynon D180 

 Lycoming IO-360 From Teledyne Mattituck

 www.computerclubcanada.com/plane.htm

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 47109#247109

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tom P

Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Beamsville, Ontario

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Rick Campbell's STOL CH 801 in Virginia, powered by a Franklin 6A-350, 220 hp engine.



I think it was this one!!!

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Dynon D180
Lycoming IO-360 From Teledyne Mattituck
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tomp

Tom P

Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Beamsville, Ontario

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Here is the NTSB report.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20090602X82354&key=1

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Dynon D180
Lycoming IO-360 From Teledyne Mattituck
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tomp

pakman

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Posts: 2
Location: Arkansas

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Is there any word on when we will hear about the cause of the engine failure?



What a sad event.



PAKman

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n85ae

Joined: 14 Mar 2007
Posts: 403

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:30 am Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Not that this is even remotely related to why the airplane in the report

crashed, but I'd be seriously looking at the fuel caps. After looking long

and hard at my fuel caps, at least one of mine has the internal metal

stamping done so crudely that the vents are effectively blocked. The

rest are pretty bad as well.



So I'm reworking mine, similar in fashion to my Kitfox's with with

the little forward facing pitot style tubes.



Another item, I can't believe Zenith delivers with the kit.



Regards,

Jeff

Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: 801 accident

Jeff,



I think most 701 builders have added periscope type vent tubes to their caps to both provide positive ventilation to the tanks, and help stop some of the spillage during maneuvers.  Before adding the vent tubes, the top of our wings, and the bottom skins too, were stained by the awful yellow autogas we use.  If we filled the tanks and went flying, we had to clean the skins several times over the next few days.



We did that and it really helped.  I don't think this is discussed in the plans, but probably should be in my opinion.  



Also, if you add the vent tubes, be sure to solder the vents inside the cap closed.  



Take care,



Tommy Walker in Alabama

 	  n85ae wrote: 	
		  Not that this is even remotely related to why the airplane in the report

crashed, but I'd be seriously looking at the fuel caps. After looking long

and hard at my fuel caps, at least one of mine has the internal metal

stamping done so crudely that the vents are effectively blocked. The

rest are pretty bad as well.



So I'm reworking mine, similar in fashion to my Kitfox's with with

the little forward facing pitot style tubes.



Another item, I can't believe Zenith delivers with the kit.



Regards,

Jeff

_________________
Tommy Walker
N25A - Anniston, AL

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: 801 accident

For those of you who don't want to weld/braze/solder a vent tube onto your

existing caps: Wag Aero sells a "Ram Air Pressure Cap" (SKU: E-481-000,

$37.95) that I think fits the 701 factor tank flanges. The vent tube comes

unbent (sticks straight up) so you can bend it to face forward. I haven't

tried one yet.



-- Craig



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NYTerminat(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: 801 accident

Craig,

  

 That is what I used and like Tommy said, no more venting fuel over the  wings. I am very happy with them

  

 Bob Spudis

  

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 6/20/2009 6:04:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  craig(at)craigandjean.com writes:

 [quote]-->    Zenith701801-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"    <craig(at)craigandjean.com>



For those of you who don't want to    weld/braze/solder a vent tube onto your

existing caps: Wag Aero sells a    "Ram Air Pressure Cap" (SKU: E-481-000,

$37.95) that I think fits the 701    factor tank flanges. The vent tube comes

unbent (sticks straight up) so you    can bend it to face forward. I haven't

tried one yet.



--    Craig



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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: 801 accident

I am using the caps original from the kit...  They work OK... 240 hrs flying...

  

 I am sure the caps suplied are inspected by ZAC personel...  Can you post a photo of the cap that has a problem?  I will like to see it..  Probably need just a little "debure" to clean the vents...

  

 Saludos

Gary Gower

 701 912S  240 hrs...  no problem yet, (Knock wood)...  Happy kit builder.

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, n85ae <n85ae(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  

From: n85ae <n85ae(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: 801 accident

To: zenith701801-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 10:30 AM



 --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "n85ae" <n85ae(at)yahoo.com (n85ae(at)yahoo.com)>



Not that this is even remotely related to why the airplane in the report

crashed, but I'd be seriously looking at the fuel caps. After looking long

and hard at my fuel caps, at least one of mine has the internal metal

stamping done so crudely that the vents are effectively blocked. The

rest are pretty bad as well.



So I'm reworking mine, similar in fashion to my Kitfox's with with

the little forward facing pitot style tubes.



Another item, I can't believe Zenith delivers with the kit.



Regards,

Jeff





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