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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: Oil change

Folks,



I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.  It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.



I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience with a lycoming.  The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.  I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better is the right time.



Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned also?  Where is it?  How do I remove it?  What does it look like?



Thanks,

Ralph

Ollie Washburn

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 56
Location: Central Florida

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:47 am Post subject: Oil change

 Filter takes place of screen. If you have a filter there should be no screen to clean.

Ollie

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:

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 Folks,

 

 I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.  It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.

 

 I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience with a lycoming.  The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.  I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better is the right time.

  

 Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned also?  Where is it?  How do I remove it?  What does it look like?

 

 Thanks,

 Ralph

 

 

 

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jbr79r(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: Oil change

Ralph

What Lyc are talking about???

 

James Robinson

Glasair lll  N79R

Spanish Fork UT  U77

From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>

To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM

Subject: Oil change



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:54 am Post subject: Oil change

I did get a picture forwarded to me directly by a list subscriber......



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: Oil change

180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.



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mcculleyja(at)starpower.n
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Oil change

There is a screen located near the bottom of the oil sump (usually at 

the right rear bottom corner) that filters any coarse particles within 

the sump to prevent them from being pulled into the return line that 

feeds the oil pump on the rear accessory case where the oil filter and 

vernatherm, etc are located.



By cutting the safety wire that retains the access plug to this coarse 

screen, you will be able to pull out with your fingers the screen to 

observe and remove any debris. There will sometimes be material that was 

present during the overhaul or assembly line. This will not normally be 

true if a proper clean environment existed during engine assembly. 

However, it is wise to check this screen at every oil change to 

determine whether large bits of metal have broken loose. This source of 

early knowledge about engine internal condition will not necessarily be 

available via periodic oil sample laboratory analysis, but can alert you 

to major problems that will not necessarily be found in other ways.



Be sure to use a new copper gasket under the plug when you replace the 

screen. DON'T remove the plug to access the screen until AFTER the oil 

sump has been completely drained to avoid being flooded with oil!!



There is a particular way to install the copper gasket and a specific 

way to properly torque the plug. It is based on the size of the gasket 

and the plug is to be turned a specific number of rotational degrees 

beyond the point where it is just finger snug by hand. This info is 

available in the overhaul manual or can be obtained from most tables of 

torque values for standard aviation hardware.



Jim McCulley

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Ollie Washburn wrote:

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		    Filter takes place of screen. If you have a filter there should be no 

 screen to clean.

 Ollie

 

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net 

 <mailto:recapen(at)earthlink.net>> wrote:

 

     

     <recapen(at)earthlink.net <mailto:recapen(at)earthlink.net>>

 

     Folks,

 

     I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the

     first oil change.  It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting

     a fresh batch of mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.

 

     I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is

     experience with a lycoming.  The drain plug appears to be

     straight-forward as does the oil-filter.  I'm thinking shortly after

     a flight to get the oil hot and drain better is the right time.

 

     Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs

     to be cleaned also?  Where is it?  How do I remove it?  What does it

     look like?

 

     Thanks,

     Ralph

 

 

 

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jbr79r(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Oil change

On my IO540k1g5 it is on the side of the sump on the pilot side and is just behind the drain valve.  I don't have any knowledge of your engine to help you.  Sorry

 

James Robinson

Glasair lll  N79R

Spanish Fork UT  U77

From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen(at)earthlink.net>

To: lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:56:04 AM

Subject: Re:  Oil change



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180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.



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jbr79r(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: Oil change

I just read the post from someone saying that "If there is a filte there is no screen"  I think this is only partially correct.  On some engines there is a screen replacing the filter.  However on my engine I have a sump screen that filters oil as it leaves the engine oil sump.  A course screen for big pieces, not meant to replace the filter.  You definately want to check this during oil changes.



 

James Robinson

Glasair lll  N79R

Spanish Fork UT  U77

From: Ralph E. Capen  <recapen(at)earthlink.net>

To: lycomingengines-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:56:04 AM

Subject: Re: Oil change



 --> LycomingEngines-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net (recapen(at)earthlink.net)>



180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: Oil change

Thanks - I'll dig out my books for the screen torque value....and the drain bolt....unless someone has it handy.......



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Oil change

I got a picture from Lycoming - it shows a finger screen in the sump - not on the case...where the filter is.



I just need the torque values for the threads.....



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recapen(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:40 am Post subject: Oil Change

After yesterdays flight, I started my oil change.



Got the oil drained and as I am installing the Curtis CCA 1700 quick-drain to replace the standard bolt, I realize a couple of things...:



The quick-drain valve is not drilled for safety wire - I think this is an important enough component to keep from loosening by itself......I'm thinking that I should get it drilled.  What do you folks say?



After going through all of my Lycoming manuals (the little owners guide that came with the engine, the overhaul manual, and the parts manual), I couldn't find the torque values for the oil-drain bolt or the finger strainer bolt.  Is there another manual?  Does anyone have these values handy?



I'm thinking that the torque for the regular oil-drain bolt should be what I use for the quick-drain.



I got the oil filter and spark plug torques from the Bingelis book - but I would be interested in what the Lycoming manuals say about them too.



Thanks in advance,

Ralph Capen

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