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edgraydallas



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

Kitfoxers, I am about ready to test fly my KII width 582 and GSC 3 blade
prop. This is a 1990 Kit I bought and started working on last spring.
Question: My horizontal stabilizer has two possible AOA settings, one
places the surface parallel to the horizontal tube in the vertical fin. The
other hole places the leading edge one half inch lower. My build manual
suggests that I start with the lower position for more nose up trim. My
local "expert" says make it parallel. I have the cambered wing. Any
suggestions or advice?

Ed Gray, Dallas

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

I have a Kit fox Mod 1 and wish it had two holes to choose from.
I think it depends on where your weight and balance came in.
If it is forward, like mine, I would chose the lower one for more
nose up. Mine varies with speed, slower is hold back pressure, faster,
75 or more, hold forward pressure and trim with flaps.
Bob


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

I have a model II (#490), 509 lbs.,582 w/GSC 3 blade prop. I built it with the stablizer in the lower of the two holes and never had a reason to move it up. I trim it with the flapperons and always want just a bit of back pressure during straight & level flight.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

The instructions say to use the lower hole...I would follow the
instructions versus the local "expert" who probably ISN'T familiar
with the Kitfox. On my plane I ended up drilling a hole even lower
that the two provided...and I'm still using that same bottom hole,
almost 700 hours later.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 680.8 hrs
Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
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On Jun 21, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Ed Gray wrote:

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Kitfoxers, I am about ready to test fly my KII width 582 and GSC 3
blade
prop. This is a 1990 Kit I bought and started working on last spring.
Question: My horizontal stabilizer has two possible AOA settings, one
places the surface parallel to the horizontal tube in the vertical
fin. The
other hole places the leading edge one half inch lower. My build
manual
suggests that I start with the lower position for more nose up
trim. My
local "expert" says make it parallel. I have the cambered wing. Any
suggestions or advice?

Ed Gray, Dallas

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Guy Buchanan



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

At 08:07 AM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
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My build manual
suggests that I start with the lower position for more nose up trim. My
local "expert" says make it parallel. I have the cambered wing. Any
suggestions or advice?

You've got a light engine and prop. The CG is probably
fairly far back.This usually leads to a desire for less negative
incidence on the horizontal. (i.e. parallel) I run my horizontal as
high in the front as I can.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting


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Tom Jones



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

Ed, this may be apples and oranges as my experience is in a Classic 4. It has three front horizontal stab mount holes spaced 1/2 inch between each. With the front stab mount bolt in the top hole it takes a slight one finger back pressure on the stick to maintain level flight. In the middle hole it takes a slight one finger foreward pressure to maintain level.

That kitfox is designed to trim the nose down with a little bit of flaps. For best rigging you are looking for a slight forward pressure on the stick to maintain level flight. Then you can trim the nose down to level with a little bit of flaps.

Anyhow it shouldn't be a significant problem to fly with either, you'll just have to try it and see where it flys best.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/09 Reply with quote

When on wheels use the top hole

When I convert to floats i Lower the horiz stab to the lower hole

Mine is a model IV

My first choice is top hole. Also I have no elevator trim and flys hands free. If you have trim then it would likely not matter what hole you use.


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