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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
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 Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: The Europa Weight Competition (please do not take seriously |
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Raimo Toivio wrote:
| Quote: | Frans, it is beautiful.
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Thanks! It just returned from the upholstery company, there are some
small things to do in the cockpit, but mostly it is finished now.
| Quote: | I noticed
- you are also (mostly) an analogue man like me.
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Although I have earned quite some money with computers, yes, for these
kind of things I like nice round gauges. Apart from looking more
appealing than a "computer game"-style instrument panel, I find it also
more practical. Can replace anything separately, put in what suits me
best without compromises, and I find it easier to see at a glance what's
going on if I don't have to interpret streams of numbers.  And last
but not least, a single black screen won't spoil my trip.
| Quote: | - you like also military style stick grips
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Well, these things have actually too much of a "plastic" impression to
my taste, but I find it convenient to have the autopilot-disengage,
trim, flaps, prop-mode and PTT all within reach, and save my other hand
for the panel, throttle and brakes (or foods or drinks ).
| Quote: | - you think black is not only possible colour for panel
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Black would shrink the airplane and disturb the "bright" impression of
the interior, so I decided to give it the same color as the leather
seats and trim.
| Quote: | - you think all the serious machines must have some switches in the ceiling panel
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Actually I have a good excuse for this: these switches control
the strobes, position lights, and a few other things which control
things that are in the back of the airplane or the ceiling itself. It
saves wires.
| Quote: | Attaches my panel pics "2007" and latter "2009" w some extras like Trio and Airmaster.
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I see a lot of similarities. Somewhat the same colors, a Trio, etc. I
like your rudder pedals, tried something like that myself but miserably
failed to find a good geometry.
| Quote: | And first competition apply is here:
OH-XRT 412 kg 906 lbs.
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Not too bad. I'm sure I will exceed this. What engine do you have? I put
in a 914 with intercooler and dual alternators, that by itself is a
strong argument in the weight competition.
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Frans Veldman
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject: The Europa Weight Competition (please do not take seriously |
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Frans
| Quote: | Although I have earned quite some money with computers, yes, for these
kind of things I like nice round gauges. Apart from looking more
appealing than a "computer game"-style instrument panel, I find it also
more practical. Can replace anything separately, put in what suits me
best without compromises, and I find it easier to see at a glance what's
going on if I don't have to interpret streams of numbers. And last
but not least, a single black screen won't spoil my trip.
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My reasons (almost free order):
1) style
2) traditions
3) readability because of analogue (not necessary to know rpms are 5037 but little over 5000)
4) readability because of "what more sun that more visibility"
5) reliability because old and proven technic
6) reliability because they are separated
7) reliability because they work by electric and air
 when (2006) I made decisions I thought glass is not "ready" and I did not liked to be a test rabbit
9) sounds grazy but I wanted to use money (yes - an el. horizon was more than Dynon but do not tell to my wife)
10) to have "round gauges" do not prevent to have also glass - I have a little Dynon in a specific place
11) to have round gauges is also for me a wild choise because of my business w PC programmed moving signs
12) I wanted to do something against known main waves
13) possibility because there are so few really necessary different information what you must get in CVFR GA
- that means I had panel space enough and you Frans have stated there is possibility to have much much more
14) I do understand what happens inside round gauges
15) round gauges are "forever" / easily changeable /serviceable - glass companies can easily fly tomorrow to the sky and what then?
16) to write this kind of lists
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> - you like also military style stick grips
Well, these things have actually too much of a "plastic" impression to
my taste, but I find it convenient to have the autopilot-disengage,
trim, flaps, prop-mode and PTT all within reach, and save my other hand
for the panel, throttle and brakes (or foods or drinks ).
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Frans: when there is nothing anymore to improve our Europas - letīs plan to make aluminium custom made experimental stick grips - like in Hornet F18s but much lighter
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> - you think all the serious machines must have some switches in the ceiling panel
Actually I have a good excuse for this: these switches control
the strobes, position lights, and a few other things which control
things that are in the back of the airplane or the ceiling itself. It
saves wires.
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My 5 switches are all illegal: two of them have a specific purpose (which is illegal but fun).
Two of them have (very illegal - so illegal that I cannot publish so far) plans for future winters.
Just one is so far extra. But I promise some day it also will be strightly illegal.
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> Attaches my panel pics "2007" and latter "2009" w some extras like Trio and Airmaster.
I see a lot of similarities. Somewhat the same colors, a Trio, etc. I
like your rudder pedals, tried something like that myself but miserably
failed to find a good geometry.
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Frans: a little tip for you. Do paint your pedals to black.
So they disappear nicely.
Please find and look LAA issue # June - so you will find out what I mean.
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> And first competition apply is here:
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> OH-XRT 412 kg 906 lbs.
Not too bad. I'm sure I will exceed this. What engine do you have? I put
in a 914 with intercooler and dual alternators, that by itself is a
strong argument in the weight competition.
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You will, easily. But I have still "a silver medal".
My enlightened guess is your weight will be +420 kg /924 lbs - letīs see.
I have 912S with many extras like water heated carburrettors and so.
My main sin was a painting for ever - I spent over 20 liters to paint she + all those UV-lacquers layers.
Also - leather interior could easily be many kilos lighter - it took three fullgrown hartebeestskin to complete it.
Raimo OH-XRT
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