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ogdenk
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 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:41 am Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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Hi all,
I have a question about the fiberglass fairings on the tail group. If installed as per the instructions, will the paint at the joint between fiberglass and Aluminum crack over time with expansion/contraction? I recall postings about this kind of phenomenon related to the windscreen. In anyone's opinion, is it worth the effort of glassing over the joint/rivets and then filling to smooth, or is this just extra weight/effort? I would like to finish this up before really getting into my wings so I don't have to come back to it later.
Kent Ogden
#40710 Wings (just barely)
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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I haven't had cracking on my fiberglass tips. But, I wish I
had used screws on the bottom rudder fairing and the forward tip
fairing on the vertical stab. If I had used screws, running wires
for my rudder trim would have been easier, and also I could
easier mount a camera in the vertical stab. Since they're
not removable it's a bigger chore. For the horizontal
stab tips though, and the rudder top tip, I think glassing them
in looks nice and see no reason not to.
If you know you'll never do a camera up top, you could glass
that one too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Kent Ogden wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I have a question about the fiberglass fairings on the tail group. If
installed as per the instructions, will the paint at the joint between
fiberglass and Aluminum crack over time with expansion/contraction? I
recall postings about this kind of phenomenon related to the
windscreen. In anyone's opinion, is it worth the effort of glassing
over the joint/rivets and then filling to smooth, or is this just extra
weight/effort? I would like to finish this up before really getting
into my wings so I don't have to come back to it later.
Kent Ogden
#40710 Wings (just barely)
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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Iused the pop rivets on the rudder faring and seqaled over the gap nice and smooth. Believe you will not see the crack you are speaking of as the pop rivets are holdthe fibeglass to the metal rudder skin. I then made a hatch to access the wire going to the tail light. The flush hatch is made from the piece cutfrom the faring and it is held in place with 2 screws.
John G
Date: Thu C 25 Jun 2009 11:33:31 -0400
From: OgdenK(at)upstate.edu
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fiberglass fairings question
Hi all C
I have a question about the fiberglass fairings on the tail group. If installed as per the instructions C will the paint at the joint between fiberglass and Aluminum crack over time with expansion/contraction? I recall postings about this kind of phenomenon related to the windscreen. In anyone's opinion C is it worth the effort of glassing over the joint/rivets and then filling to smooth C or is this just extra weight/effort? I would like to finish this up before really getting into my wings so I don't have to come back to it later.
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orchidman
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Fiberglass fairings question |
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| Tim Olson wrote: | I haven't had cracking on my fiberglass tips. But, I wish I had used screws on the bottom rudder fairing and the forward tip
fairing on the vertical stab. If I had used screws, running wires
for my rudder trim would have been easier, and also I could
easier mount a camera in the vertical stab. Since they're
not removable it's a bigger chore. For the horizontal
stab tips though, and the rudder top tip, I think glassing them
in looks nice and see no reason not to.
If you know you'll never do a camera up top, you could glass
that one too.
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I am considering mounting one on the under wing first inspection plate on the right side. Problem is, I have not found a camera that I like. The resolutions are just not there yet for a reasonable price. My eyes and ears are open for one to hit the market.
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ogdenk
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Location: Syracuse, NY
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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Tim,
Interesting that you mention screws,I did use screws on the rudder bottom forease of wiringand also on theelevator fairings. My reasoning on the elevators is probably suspect, Iwas thinkingthat if the fairings were damaged in ground handling etc. it would be easy to pop them off for repairs. It wouldn't be too hard toremove the entireelevator for repairseither, certainly easier than for damage to the HS. I hadn't considered screws for the VS fairing, but the camera idea has me thinking that way. Thanks for the thoughts.
Kent
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I haven't had cracking on my fiberglass tips. But, I wish I
had used screws on the bottom rudder fairing and the forward tip
fairing on the vertical stab. If I had used screws, running wires
for my rudder trim would have been easier, and also I could
easier mount a camera in the vertical stab. Since they're
not removable it's a bigger chore. For the horizontal
stab tips though, and the rudder top tip, I think glassing them
in looks nice and see no reason not to.
If you know you'll never do a camera up top, you could glass
that one too.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Kent Ogden wrote:
| Quote: | Hi all,
I have a question about the fiberglass fairings on the tail group. If
installed as per the instructions, will the paint at the joint between
fiberglass and Aluminum crack over time with expansion/contraction? I
recall postings about this kind of phenomenon related to the
windscreen. In anyone's opinion, is it worth the effort of glassing
over the joint/rivets and then filling to smooth, or is this just extra
weight/effort? I would like to finish this up before really getting
into my wings so I don't have to come back to it later.
Kent Ogden
#40710 Wings (just barely)
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bcondrey
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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A consideration for the rudder bottom fairing would be to use screws for
ease of replacement. I know of more than 1 RV-10 that got tipped back
and crack the fiberglass from people on both steps at the same time, aft
CG and taxiing on rough turf field, etc.
And no, it hasn't happened to me...
Bob
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Dick Sipp
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: Fiberglass fairings question |
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Kent:
This is probably as much an aesthetics question as one of durability. Some people like the "filled in smooth" look and done well will probably hold up fine.
Another school of thought says small uniform gaps between varying materials and components also looks very good and there is no problem with potential cracks.
I have a little of both processes and have seen no cracks so far. Also used the screw attachment for the lower rudder fairing.
Dick Sipp
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