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 Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: Thanks - Appreciate differences in VG discussion now! |
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Boyd, I take it you've never learned to do a falling leaf stall.
Rick
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, b young <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)>
>It would be interesting to know what the difference in sink rate is (at
>stall) with and without vg's.
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It just seems to me, when I was much younger, that I learned, or at least
was told that at the point of stall. The wing quits flying and starts
falling out of the sky. Now if we are talking sink rate after the wing has
stalled,,, or in other words, the sink rate during the falling out of the
sky portion of flight. Maybe at that point we are referring to the
parachute effect of the wing. Seems to me that it is safer to fly the
plane within an inch or two of the ground, instead of riding a falling leaf
out of the sky. Or better yet, fly to the ground and do a wheel landing.
That way putting the entire flight under my control instead of putting
gravity in the pilot seat... if we are always flying on the edge,,, sooner
or later gravity will win. If you enjoy riding the falling leaf,, best get
some spin training.
Boyd
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks - Appreciate differences in VG discussion now! |
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There is one aspect of VGs that no one has talked about. I fly a 701 Zenith so this may or may not apply to the Kolb. I removed my slats and installed VGs. One of the significant differences I found is that at high altitude my attack angle is considerably less. This was a significant advantage to me as I live in mountainous country and frequently fly quite high. I get better speed with the same throttle setting.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: Thanks - Appreciate differences in VG discussion now! |
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Boyd, I take it you've never learned to do a falling leaf stall.
Rick
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, b young <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)> wrote:
[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)>
>It would be interesting to know what the difference in sink rate is (at
>stall) with and without vg's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It just seems to me, when I was much younger, that I learned, or at least
was told that at the point of stall. The wing quits flying and starts
falling out of the sky. Now if we are talking sink rate after the wing has
stalled,,, or in other words, the sink rate during the falling out of the
sky portion of flight. Maybe at that point we are referring to the
parachute effect of the wing. Seems to me that it is safer to fly the
plane within an inch or two of the ground, instead of riding a falling leaf
out of the sky. Or better yet, fly to the ground and do a wheel landing.
That way putting the entire flight under my control instead of putting
gravity in the pilot seat... if we are always flying on the edge,,, sooner
or later gravity will win. If you enjoy riding the falling leaf,, best get
some spin training.
Boyd
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: Thanks - Appreciate differences in VG discussion now! |
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Boyd, I take it you've never learned to do a falling leaf stall.
Rick
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been there and done that. The main purpose of doing it is to learn what the plane will handle like when approaching a stall, so as to not get into one. I used to love doing spins, great fun. But now I am older and wiser.
Boyd
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: Thanks - Appreciate differences in VG discussion now! |
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I understand. I fly the wife around a lot in the back seat of my trike and that nice easy flying is kind of addicting. Couldn't resist the jab, though. 
Rick
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:16 PM, b young <by0ung(at)brigham.net (by0ung(at)brigham.net)> wrote:
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Boyd, I take it you've never learned to do a falling leaf stall.
Rick
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been there and done that. The main purpose of doing it is to learn what the plane will handle like when approaching a stall, so as to not get into one. I used to love doing spins, great fun. But now I am older and wiser.
Boyd
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