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Watkinsdw

Joined: 15 Mar 2009
Posts: 138
Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: Deviation cards

Greetings, 

Looking at Larry C's great pictures of his panel and the interesting landscape he flew over brought to mind a question I've been pondering.



My Kolb MkIII-C isn't equipped with a compass deviation card. 

I think that in 'general aviation,' it's required. Does this rule apply to Experimentals?



Thanks,

Dave

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lcottrell

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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: Deviation cards

Yep!, I had one but it dried up and fell off. The compass  actually reads 240 anywhere I go. Been meaning to fix it. :-/

 Larry

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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: Deviation cards

depends on how much of a deviate you are.

The rule with certificated (standard) aircraft is that whatever you  

have stuck in the panel is supposed to be functional.

If it doesn't work remove it.

Compass card presence has rarely been enforced as evidenced by so  

many nearly illegible ones out there.

First thing to do if you are concerned is lay out a temporary compass  

rose on the ground using ribbon and

a boy scout compass.  Then rotate the plane on it to check accuracy.

I was pleased to discover mine was nearly dead on.  At least within a  

degree or two.

BB



On 2, Jul 2009, at 8:03 AM, Watkinsdw wrote:



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 <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com>



 Greetings,

 Looking at Larry C's great pictures of his panel and the  

 interesting landscape he flew over brought to mind a question I've  

 been pondering.



 My Kolb MkIII-C isn't equipped with a compass deviation card.

 I think that in 'general aviation,' it's required. Does this rule  

 apply to Experimentals?



 Thanks,

 Dave





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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: Deviation cards

My A & P wants to see it at every condition inspection, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I 

pull it from the logbook, place it in the plane' til he`s signed off 

everything, Then I put it back in the log book 'til next year. 

........really.

Jim

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: Deviation cards

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		   My A & P wants to see it at every condition inspection, so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 

 I pull it from the logbook, place it in the plane' til he`s signed off 

 everything, Then I put it back in the log book 'til next year. 

 .........really.

 Jim


	




Be careful!  The "deviation card police" are everywhere.



I have tried several times to swing the compass in my mkIII, but can never 

get close.  It will give you an accurate reading at one point in the compass 

rose.



I even used a "real" compass rose at Wetumpka Airport, but that didn't help. 

; -)



Primary nav is GPS, which is not 100% reliable.  It'll hicough once in a 

while and leave me hanging, but only once in a blue moon.  If the GPS goes 

down, I can still use the whiskey compass to maintain a heading.  May not 

know what the heading is, but have a general idea.  This will get me to a 

road, river, railroad, etc.  From there I can find a town and an airport. 

If I find an interstate highway, it is a simple task to get down on the deck 

and read the road signs.  Other highways work, but normally their signs 

aren't as big as those on the interstate.



My FAA Designee was not interested in my compass card, but he did a thorough 

job of inspecting the aircraft, without the mickey mouse BS that some folks 

have to contend with.



john h

mkIII

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Watkinsdw

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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Deviation cards

Thanks, guys,

The great thing about posting questions here is that the answers are either informative, or entertaining. Sometimes, they're both!

Dave

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Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: Deviation cards

My FAA Designee was not interested in my compass card,>>



Hi John,

I have never seen a microlight in the UK with a decent compass let alone a 

deviation card. Most have a stick on car compass which may be good to the 

nearest 5 degrees. I dont think most light aircraft pilots can fly within 3 

degrees anyway and in  a very light a/c like ours it is even more difficult.

Difficult, but not impossible to get lost here in the UK. You just lose 

height and read the pub signs. Most pilots know every pub within 50 miles.

I have a mate who is a  raiIway buff and he will suddenly point and say 

"Look at that. That straight hedge is where the old line from Bratchester to 

Oxbridge used to run.The line was taken up in 1956 but that town over there 

must be....etc..All knowledge is useful.



 Cheers



Pat

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