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ltaylor02(at)Chartermi.ne
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: ENGINE OPTIONS

I've performed a search regarding engine selection  specific to VW applications and the AeroVee.  Did anyone follow through  with an AeroVee installation and if so, are you satisfied with  performance?  I have a new grey head 582 complete FF setup for my model IV,  but am continuing to research other options.   Appreciate any  feedback.  I've also been evaluating the Jabiru 2200.  

  

 Lane

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ronal22(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:40 am Post subject: Engine Options

I have a KF IV with a Jabiru 2200, and I am pleased  with it's performance.  I would recommend using the Skyfox cowl instead of  the round cowl.  Cooling is a major issue, but if you have sufficient  air flow over the cylinders,  it doesn't seem to be a problem.  Also  you might need to rejet the Bing carb to control the EGTs.  

  

 Ronal Smith, KF IV

 Jabiru 2200, S/N  2030, 150hrs.

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:04 am Post subject: Engine Options

I'll second what Ron said, and add that the addition of the Rotec  

TBI-40 mechanical fuel injection system will enable the pilot to  

control the EGT's rather well. I've been test flying mine over the  

last several days, and I've seen EGT's as close together as (today's  

flight) 41 degrees F., and CHT's as close together as 7 degrees F.   

It's nice to be able to adjust the mixture with this device, and also  

to see the fuel flow read down as low as 2.9 gph at about 80 mph  

groundspeed into a 12 mph wind at 2700 rpm.

I've been playing with "lean of peak" with this device, which is one  

reason that I bought it. It amazed me that you can see the EGT's go  

down after reaching peak temperature....I was a sceptic as first, but  

if the engine lives, I'll be a believer. Even without the ability to  

go lean of peak, just being able to adjust the mixture on the fly is  

worth the added workload on this pilot during takeoff and landing.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062, 727.5 hrs

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: TBI installation done...tests flights underway

On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:32 AM, RONAL SMITH wrote:



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		   I have a KF IV with a Jabiru 2200, and I am pleased with it's  

 performance.  I would recommend using the Skyfox cowl instead of  

 the round cowl.  Cooling is a major issue, but if you have  

 sufficient air flow over the cylinders,  it doesn't seem to be a  

 problem.  Also you might need to rejet the Bing carb to control the  

 EGTs.



 Ronal Smith, KF IV

 Jabiru 2200, S/N 2030, 150hrs.

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
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jdmcbean(at)kitfoxaircraf
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: Engine Options

Then there is always the Kitfox Smooth cowlings.  

Fly Safe !!

 John & Debra McBean

 Ph 208.337.5111

 www.kitfoxaircraft.com 

 "The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"   

   

   

       

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I have a KF IV with a Jabiru 2200, and I am pleased with it's performance.  I would recommend using the Skyfox cowl instead of the round cowl.  Cooling is a major issue, but if you have sufficient air flow over the cylinders,  it doesn't seem to be a problem.  Also you might need to rejet the Bing carb to control the EGTs.    

    

   

    

Ronal Smith, KF IV  

    

Jabiru 2200, S/N 2030, 150hrs.  

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jose_m_toro(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Engine Options

Ronal:

  

 Where is the oil cooler located in your installation?

  

 José



 

   From: RONAL SMITH <ronal22(at)verizon.net>

To: Kitfox-List Digest Server <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:32:37 AM

Subject: Engine Options



   I have a KF IV with a Jabiru 2200, and I am pleased with it's performance.  I would recommend using the Skyfox cowl instead of the round cowl.  Cooling is a major issue, but if you have sufficient air flow over the cylinders,  it doesn't seem to be a problem.  Also you might need to rejet the Bing carb to control the EGTs.  

  

 Ronal Smith, KF IV

 Jabiru 2200, S/N 2030, 150hrs.

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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject: ENGINE OPTIONS

Lane, Why not use the 582? What reduction box is with it?

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

 



 

 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, lst <ltaylor02(at)chartermi.net (ltaylor02(at)chartermi.net)> wrote:

 [quote]  I've performed a search regarding engine selection specific to VW applications and the AeroVee.  Did anyone follow through with an AeroVee installation and if so, are you satisfied with performance?  I have a new grey head 582 complete FF setup for my model IV, but am continuing to research other options.   Appreciate any feedback.  I've also been evaluating the Jabiru 2200.  

   

 Lane

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ltaylor02(at)Chartermi.ne
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:40 am Post subject: Engine Options

Ron,  Thanks for your feedback.    

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ltaylor02(at)Chartermi.ne
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: ENGINE OPTIONS

Hi Pat,  It came with the C box and a GSC  ground adjustable three blade prop.  Are you using the 582 grey head?   If so, are you satisfied with it and what kind of performance are you  experiencing? Appreciate your feedback.

  

 Lane

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ronal22(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: Engine Options

My oil cooler is located right in front of cooling  fins on the Jabiru 2200 oil pan or case.  There is about 0.5 inch clearance  between the two.  I have a bump-out over the cooler on the cowling with an  opening at the bottom of the bump-out.  This is so the air coming in the  opening on the bottom cowl can flow over the oil cooler/engine case and then  exit without pressurizing the bottom of the engine compartment.   

  

 When I got my cowling, John McBean was not in  business.  If he has the smooth cowl for the Kitfox IV, I would certainly  look at that.  My dealings with John have been excellent.

  

 Ron Smith, Kitfox IV

 Jabiru 2200, S/N 2030, 150 hrs.

 Lewes, DE

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Pat Reilly

Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 345

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: ENGINE OPTIONS

Lane I am still about 2 weeks away from having mine airborne. I am rebuilding a mod 3 that was set up for a 912. I was going to install a 912 but found a 100 hr 582 grey head C box FWF for about 1/3 of what a good used 912 would cost. The 582 is so much lighter that it should out climb the 912. I am an old 2 stroke dirt bike racer so I am comfortable with, understand, and like 2 stroke engines. The older lighter KF seem to me to be a bush plane that I wouldn't relish taking  long trips in no matter what engine it had. If you want to know if the 582's are acceptable talk with Dave in Canada, Noel in Newfoundland and Lenoard in Alaska. They are on this web and between the 3 of them have more 582 experience than the rest of the world put together.

   

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 582 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL 

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:07 AM, lst <ltaylor02(at)chartermi.net (ltaylor02(at)chartermi.net)> wrote:

 [quote]  Hi Pat,  It came with the C box and a GSC ground adjustable three blade prop.  Are you using the 582 grey head?  If so, are you satisfied with it and what kind of performance are you experiencing? Appreciate your feedback.

   

 Lane

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ltaylor02(at)Chartermi.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:40 am Post subject: ENGINE OPTIONS

I'm also a motocrosser from the two-stroke days,  but have recently made the conversion to a CRF450R like nearly everyone  else.  I have the advantage of being light--140 wet so perhaps the 582 will  work just fine.  I also like the idea that I can do my own rebuild having  done countless bikes and sleds over the years.  Have you tried Evans  coolant in your 582.  I used it in my 912 powered Pulsar XP and it work  well.  Thanks again for your feedback and the contacts.  

  

 Lane

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