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Fergus Kyle



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Duracell Reply with quote

Just yesterday morning, I reached for my Frequency Counter, which I hadn't
used for about a year, and found it dead. ....opened it up and pulled out a
Duracell 9Vdc battery - clean and dry - with the sticker (I put on every
battery) reading 09OCT2003.
Cheers, Ferg
PS: Maybe they were good then....?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Duracell Reply with quote

That was my point, didn't used to have to worry about Duracells
leaking unless you left them for years and years which made them
worth more. Now they almost leak coming out of the package. I was
just trying to confirm if anyone else is experiencing this new
leaking symptom.

They have changed them in some way that is causing the recent
produced batteries to leak, (last 2-4 years). Previously I never had
a problem with them. Rayovacs used to have leaking problem,
Energizers were better in that regard but still would leak after a
longer period of time. Duracells seldom ever leak ever leak which
made them good choice for use in more expensive things like camera,
test equipment. etc. You paid a little more for them but you had
peace of mind that they wouldn't leak, not so any more.

I had a package of Duracell AAA that I was using for my PDA. They
normally last about 3 weeks to a month. The package I had were well
in shelf date, if they were even close to being run down you wanted
them out of the device. Once you had them out you better have them
in some container cause they would leak with a few weeks, Note I am
experiencing the same problem with other sizes as well.

Well, a couple of you have confirmed similar characteristics. I
know this topic was off from the normal list content but since
batteries have been a topic in the past by Bob I thought I would poll
the members to see if their recent experience has been similar to
mine. Guess I need to approach the company and see what they have to
say. At this point I've lost my confidence in their product.
jerb
At 01:09 AM 8/19/2009, you wrote:
Quote:
Just yesterday morning, I reached for my Frequency Counter, which I hadn't
used for about a year, and found it dead. ....opened it up and pulled out a
Duracell 9Vdc battery - clean and dry - with the sticker (I put on every
battery) reading 09OCT2003.
Cheers, Ferg
PS: Maybe they were good then....?



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Duracell Reply with quote

Good Morning Jerb,

I have found the same problem.

All these years of trusting the Duracell now destroyed! <G>

I had one leak in a four D cell Maglite. Could not get the offending cell out. I contacted Duracell via their website and sent them the messed up Maglite. It took a couple of months, but they did send me a check which almost covered the cost of a new Maglite and the nine bucks I spent to send the bad one to them.

I appreciate the customer service response, but I would like it better if I could get back the confidence that I previously had in the Duracell!

Happy Skies,

Old Bob

In a message dated 8/19/2009 10:18:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ulflyer(at)verizon.net writes:
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net>

That was my point, didn't used to have to worry about Duracells
leaking unless you left them for years and years which made them
worth more. Now they almost leak coming out of the package. I was
just trying to confirm if anyone else is experiencing this new
leaking symptom.

They have changed them in some way that is causing the recent
produced batteries to leak, (last 2-4 years).  Previously I never had
a problem with them. Rayovacs used to have leaking problem,
Energizers were better in that regard but still would leak after a
longer period of time. Duracells seldom ever leak ever leak which
made them good choice for use in more expensive things like camera,
test equipment. etc. You paid a little more for them but you had
peace of mind that they wouldn't leak, not so any more.

I had a package of Duracell AAA that I was using for my PDA. They
normally last about 3 weeks to a month. The package I had were well
in shelf date, if they were even close to being run down you wanted
them out of the device. Once you had them out you better have them
in some container cause they would leak with a few weeks, Note I am
experiencing the same problem with other sizes as well.

Well, a couple of you have confirmed similar characteristics. I
know this topic was off from the normal list content but since
batteries have been a topic in the past by Bob I thought I would poll
the members to see if their recent experience has been similar to
mine. Guess I need to approach the company and see what they have to
say. At this point I've lost my confidence in their product.
jerb
At 01:09 AM 8/19/2009, you wrote:
Quote:
Just yesterday morning, I reached for my Frequency Counter, which I hadn't
used for about a year, and found it dead. ....opened it up and pulled out a
Duracell 9Vdc battery - clean and dry - with the sticker (I put on every
battery) reading 09OCT2003.
Cheers, Ferg
PS: Maybe they were good ================================================




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Duracell Reply with quote

Ol' Bob,
Always glad to see your comments. I too had a 4 D cell Maglite go bad with leaky Duracell's. I saved the flashlight using penetrating oil down through the corrosion areas and the cells finally let go. Interestingly, the Maglite cleaned up very well inside. I must be make of or coated with a pretty good plating inside. I do not use the light much as it is the auto light when needed to thump someone on the head or search the trunk at night, etc. I also now open it every month or so and roll out the D cells to check for any leaky critters.....
Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Duracell Reply with quote

At 11:08 AM 8/19/2009, you wrote:
Quote:
Ol' Bob,
Always glad to see your comments. I too had a 4 D cell Maglite go
bad with leaky Duracell's. I saved the flashlight using penetrating
oil down through the corrosion areas and the cells finally let
go. Interestingly, the Maglite cleaned up very well inside. I must
be make of or coated with a pretty good plating inside. I do not
use the light much as it is the auto light when needed to thump
someone on the head or search the trunk at night, etc. I also now
open it every month or so and roll out the D cells to check for any
leaky critters.....


Hmmmm . . . did a Goggle search on

Energizer battery leak 40,000 hits
Duracell battery leak 28,000 hits
Ray-o-Vac battery leak 19,000 hits

Read a few hits on each. Seems that somebody, somewhere,
has had some leaking experiences with about every kind
of cell.

No doubt there is a high probability of process
change or even root-source manufacturing for
any brand of alkaline cell. We've heard of many
instances where big brand manufacturers do
re-branded products on the same production line . . .
that retail for less because the off-brand is not burdened
with advertising costs.

Another increasing trend is the use of off-shore
manufacturing facilities for about ANY brand. It's
the free market way.

My personal experience with leaking cells has been
very limited . . . and I attribute that to the fact
that we cycle through fresh cells at a reasonably
fast pace . . . I'm more likely to replace a cell
because it fails to energize a tool I'm using right
now than to pick up a tool that has not been used
for a long time and discovered dead cells.

Certainly, applications that expose any cell to
extremes of temperature and long periods between
replacement are more likely to be leakers. This is
especially true of ELTs, flashlights and other
accessories that sit in a parked airplane.

It would be interesting to craft a study on consumer
flashlight cells on a par with the one in which I
participated that looked at aircraft batteries some years
back. It seems that our unusually burdensome failure
rate for batteries was attributable to how we
were handling batteries and not on variability in
quality.

I'm not suggesting that the same cause/effect applies
here . . . but I can suggest that seeking out and
finding root cause is a more rigorous activity
than anyone who frequents this List can fund. This
leaves us with anecdotal reports . . . of which there
are tens of thousands on the 'net to consider.

It may be true that Duracell's tendencies to
leak have increased over the years . . . but equally
probable that other brands are getting worse for
similar reasons. I seldom purchase name brand batteries
for reasons cited in . . .

http://aeroelectric.com/articles/AA_Bat_Test.pdf

Of course, that study was limited to exploration
of contained energy. Each discharged cell was
discarded when the tests were over. Maybe I ought
to do it again but keep the dead cells laying around
(or boxed up on my patio) to see if I can encourage
them to leak.

Bob . . .


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