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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

I have a 912S and I had the clutch upgraded to the slipper clutch. I had the
clutch done by a dealer but I had to remove and install the gear box myself.
After I changed the clutch I ran the engine and it all seemed fine, no leaks
and sounded good. Yesterday I taxied out on the water and took a few short
runs just to check that all was well. Oil pressure was good, all temps were
within limits. When I shut off the engine I could hear a dry sound. It
appeared to be coming from the gearbox. I hand proped it and could hear the
same sound almost a squeeking sound from the same area. Pulled the plugs to
check them they were all fine (left them out) and after when the engine
cooled a bit I hand proped it again and it sound normal. Is my gear box not
getting oil? Or is something else wrong. Any ideas
Shane


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: dry clutch Reply with quote

it's just the sound of the clutch

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

It is not a good sound. It is the kind of sound that makes one happy to be
on the ground and not in the air while it is happening.
Maybe a bearing or something was too tight when the slipper parts were
installed and when the engine gets hot it is too tight.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

What kind of oil are you using.  No Moly I hope.
 
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[quote] From: shanesather(at)NETKASTER.CA
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Subject: Re: Re: dry clutch
Date: Fri C 14 Aug 2009 17:39:07 -0600

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Shane Sather" <shanesather(at)NETKASTER.CA>

It is not a good sound. It is the kind of sound that makes one happy to be
on the ground and not in the air while it is happening.
Maybe a bearing or something was too tight when the slipper parts were
installed and when the engine gets hot it is too tight.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

I am using Honda 4 stroke oil. It is the same oil I have always used
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: dry clutch Reply with quote

The slipper clutch makes a squeeky noise when you stop the engine.
They are all like that.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

Wingman

When I first started to hear the noise I was idling down as I was pulling
into the dock, so the engine was still running at the time. After I shut
down and turned the prop by hand I could still hear the noise. After the
engine cooled down the sounds were normal. Does your do this too?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: dry clutch Reply with quote

I think it supposed to squeek only when you stop the engine.
Mine is quiet when i turn the prop by hand.
If your carbs are unbalanced it could possibly squeek a little at low rpm but thats just a guess.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

Shane, if you have the capability, tools, and time, you might dismantle it
to do some exploratory surgery. If there is a problem it should be evident
and it's just a matter of making a repair. If you don't find anything wrong
and you're satisfied that all is well, then your future flights may be with
less worry.
Deke Morisse
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S5/Subaru/CAP 430+ TT
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Wingman

When I first started to hear the noise I was idling down as I was pulling
into the dock, so the engine was still running at the time. After I shut
down and turned the prop by hand I could still hear the noise. After the
engine cooled down the sounds were normal. Does your do this too?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

 Which Honda C I am using HP4
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: dry clutch Reply with quote

It is the same oil.

Tied the plane down today and fired it up. Warmed it up first for about 5 min or so and then started running at higher RPMs. Finished at 5200 for two minuets. Sounded fine. Then ran it around 2K for a few minents and shut it down. Shut down was normal. I didn't get it as hot as yesterday, never seem to be able to get the temp up high when on the ground. So I don't know maybe I will try it again on the water tommorrow. I am going to check that magnitic plug on the side of the gear case above the oil filter first just to see how it looks first though.
Shane
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Dry Clutch Reply with quote

I thought I would provide a up-date to my earlier problem. I have flown 4
times since I first wrote and have had no further issues with the noisy
clutch. One thing I have noted is that the engine doesn't normally run as
hot as it did that time when I thought I had a problem. It runs about 20 to
30 degrees cooler while in flight. So perhaps that was all it was, the
clutch doesn't like the upper limits of the operating temp.
So all is good, engine runs fine.

Shane

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