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rv10(at)colohan.com
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 Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.) Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years doing. 
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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Can not help you with the building part, but the Price part…..
A Very conservative number for my airplane is ~160,000 before taxes. It can be done cheaper, I could have spent less on the engine and a little less on the panel. I purchased the interior and had it painted. I also have a $6,000+ O2 System, but you need to get what you really need……want…during the build, it will be hard to do it later. The O2 was real important for me because my wife gets air sick whenever we fly over 10k w/o O2. It has worked great.
Rene'
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pilotdds(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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I am at SCK come on by,an early example but it flys well-2094770222.Cost to complete about 110-Do it yourself paint and a home overhaul on the engine.The RV-10 is an awesome aircraft.
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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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I can not help with the near by 10. A very good rule of thumb for costs is the 3X rule. Use the airframe cost and multiply by 3 for the finished built product. Then use the airframe cost and multiply by 9 to determine the cost of certified equivalent. As example 50K for the 10 kit, 50k for engine and prop and Firewall forward kit, and 50K for avionics and finishing including a modest paint job. A 10 goes faster , carries more and is better equipped than most new C182s. Check a new 182 price with glass panel avionics and it is at least 400K.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:44 PM
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Can not help you with the building part, but the Price part…..
A Very conservative number for my airplane is ~160,000 before taxes. It can be done cheaper, I could have spent less on the engine and a little less on the panel. I purchased the interior and had it painted. I also have a $6,000+ O2 System, but you need to get what you really need……want…during the build, it will be hard to do it later. The O2 was real important for me because my wife gets air sick whenever we fly over 10k w/o O2. It has worked great.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Colohan
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:01 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.) Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years doing.
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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Bob Turner
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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I'm in Castro Valley, #40745. I also know Dave, in Livermore, #40746 (just coincidence on the numbers!). We're both on the finish kit stage (which definitely does not mean it's finished - maybe 60% of the way there. We're both working in garages (he has a 3 car garage, I have a smallish 2 car garage). If you'd like to come by, see what it looks like stuffed into a garage like this, talk about the work, the cost to date, expected final cost, etc., I'd be happy to host you, and I'm sure Dave would, too. email me at <bobturner> if you'd like to visit.
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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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| Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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Chris,
We're in Watsonville, near Monterey, at KWVI. I have a 10 that I finished in '07 now with 475 hours.
I'd be happy to take you for a quick flight and show you around our shop. Just give me a call and we can set up a time for you come over and see a bunch of experimentals, including my 10. We do SportAir weekend workshops with EAA and other workshops too.
Best Regards,
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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rv10(at)colohan.com
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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Wow, what a nice response I got!
FYI -- I swung by Bob's house on Sunday, since he was the closest to where I live. Very impressive project.
I am now pretty convinced that I want to build one of my own. Time to start working harder on the finances... 
Chris
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Chris Colohan <rv10(at)colohan.com (rv10(at)colohan.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.) Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years doing.
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area? |
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Chris
You will be glad you did. I am in Dixon just up I80 from you contact me and come visit any time.
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Colohan
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Builders/owners in the SF Bay Area?
Wow, what a nice response I got!
FYI -- I swung by Bob's house on Sunday, since he was the closest to where I live. Very impressive project.
I am now pretty convinced that I want to build one of my own. Time to start working harder on the finances...
Chris
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Chris Colohan <rv10(at)colohan.com (rv10(at)colohan.com)> wrote:
Hi there!
I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to jump into the pool and start building an rv-10. (Step 2: figure out if I can actually afford it.) Before I make that leap, I thought it might be a good idea to take a look at the finished product, and to perhaps help out with some building tasks to make sure it is really the kind of thing I'd like to spend several years doing.
So, I'm asking:
1. Is there anyone with a finished (or nearly finished) rv-10 in the Bay Area (or within a 100nm flight or so and near an airport) who might be interested in showing off their work?
2. Is there anyone working on a plane who might find a second pair of somewhat-handy hands useful? (I hear offering to hold a bucking bar is a good thing -- but I've never set real rivets, only pop rivets, so I can't offer loads of experience.)
3. Has anyone on this list nearly finished and have a good estimate of what the finished product cost to build? I fear that the estimates on Van's site might be hopelessly optimistic, and seeing some actual numbers might improve my confidence in my building decision.
I tried heading up to Golden West to see all the planes, but the Cessna I rented failed a mag check (and refused to clear) after waiting 30 minutes for an IFR release. (Urk.)
Thanks!
Chris
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