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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

All,

I need some help and Vans is not answering the phone.  I am getting ready to match drill the rear spar and doublers to the ribs and have found that the holes of two of the ribs (where the wing walk is) do not match up with the holes in the doubler or rear spar.  The ribs have the four holes, the middle two just do not line up.  Is this normal and I just need to drill through the double and create two new holes in the ribs, or are my ribs all screwed up?

thanks,

John Trollinger
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

It's normal. The holes don't get rivets in them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

My wings were QB, so I did not do this particular task. However, my experience taught me to go back and take a really good look at everything if something just did not fit, or holes did not line up. These pre-punched kits don't seem to have many mistakes of this kind. Re-read directions carefully,look closely at the drawings, and talk to other builders (just like you are doing here) before you decided to drill new holes. Maybe getting a fresh set of eyes to take a look would be good, too.

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On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:33 PM, John Trollinger wrote:
All,

I need some help and Vans is not answering the phone. I am getting ready to match drill the rear spar and doublers to the ribs and have found that the holes of two of the ribs (where the wing walk is) do not match up with the holes in the doubler or rear spar. The ribs have the four holes, the middle two just do not line up. Is this normal and I just need to drill through the double and create two new holes in the ribs, or are my ribs all screwed up?

thanks,

John Trollinger
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

IIRC you use the hole in the thicker part & make an extra hole in the thinner.
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On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:33 PM, John Trollinger <john(at)trollingers.com (john(at)trollingers.com)> wrote:

[quote]All,

I need some help and Vans is not answering the phone. I am getting ready to match drill the rear spar and doublers to the ribs and have found that the holes of two of the ribs (where the wing walk is) do not match up with the holes in the doubler or rear spar. The ribs have the four holes, the middle two just do not line up. Is this normal and I just need to drill through the double and create two new holes in the ribs, or are my ribs all screwed up?

thanks,

John Trollinger
rv10.trollingers.com

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

So I should just drill the two new holes through the doubler and ignore the center to holes that are already in the ribs?

thanks,

John

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com (sean(at)braunandco.com)> wrote:
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

John,
This is the response that I received from Van's when I ran across
the same situation.

Ed Godfrey
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This is normal. All the ribs are punched the same to save having more rib
part numbers to punch, but in this area you will need to drill into the ribs
using the holes in the reinforcing bar as a guide. Do NOT use the ribs as a
guide to drill the spars.

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Vans,
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I have run across another issue of holes not lining up, this time on
the rear spar of the wing. Apparently, the holes in the rib do not match
up with the holes in the rear spar and the Rear Spare Reinforcement
Fork. The holes that do not line up are on the third and fourth rib,
starting at the most inboard. One rib being a W-1011-R and the other,
W1011-L. The holes nearest the spar flanges do match up, but the 2
"inner" holes punched in the rear spar and the Rear Spare Reinforcement
Fork do not match the holes in the rib flange. This problem exists on
both of the wings, with the same ribs. See photos attached. I am looking
for guidance here as to what is the best course of action to take.
Thank
you.

Ed Godfrey
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John Trollinger wrote:
[quote] So I should just drill the two new holes through the doubler and
ignore the center to holes that are already in the ribs?

thanks,

John

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It's normal. The holes don't get rivets in them.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

Ed said it right. You can tell it was just an easier way to make less part numbers. The two hole are not used.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Page 15-4 Wing Rear Spar Reply with quote

Thanks all.. its nice to not always have to wait for vans to be open to get your answer.

back to the shop to drill some holes.

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