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timwarlick(at)mchsi.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

All,

  

 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to  Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs,  should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26  foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty  compact. What precautions do I need to take?

  

 Tim Warlick

 Kolb Mark 3 Classic

 BMW R100 powered

  

  

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aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

Tim, It it were me I'd get the U-Haul. That's the way I brought mine back from Alabama. The best precaution you can take is to get the main gear up off the floor of the truck so road shocks won't be transmitted to the plane. I used 4" foam pads with a plywood compression plate to spread the load over the entire piece of foam. Put the boom in a padded cradle to get the tail wheel off the floor for the same reason. I was the packaging engineer for an office equipment manufacturer in the 90's. I spent a couple of days at the Yellow Freight Packaging Laboratory filming tests of out packaging. One of the things I learned was that a normal highway expansion joint transmits a 6G shock load to the truck floor. Do that about 100,000 times (not an unusual number for 2,000 miles of road) and it will damage your aircraft

 



Rick Girard

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Tim Warlick <timwarlick(at)mchsi.com (timwarlick(at)mchsi.com)> wrote:

 [quote]       All,

  

 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to  Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs,  should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26  foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty  compact. What precautions do I need to take?

  

 Tim Warlick

 Kolb Mark 3 Classic

 BMW R100 powered

  

  

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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Houston

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

To add to what Rick said, which I whole heartedly agree with.... of all the Kolbs I've seen transported, the most common mistake was not protecting the leading edge of the wings.  I would suggest removing the wings, then wrapping them with foam rubber, doubly so on the leading edge.  I suspended mine from the ceiling of the trailer and then rigged it with blankets, foam rubber, etc. so that the wings wouldn't move around.

 

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote] Tim, It it were me I'd get the U-Haul. That's the way I brought mine back from Alabama. The best precaution you can take is to get the main gear up off the floor of the truck so road shocks won't be transmitted to the plane. I used 4" foam pads with a plywood compression plate to spread the load over the entire piece of foam. Put the boom in a padded cradle to get the tail wheel off the floor for the same reason.  I was the packaging engineer for an office equipment manufacturer in the 90's. I spent a couple of days at the Yellow Freight Packaging Laboratory filming tests of out packaging. One of the things I learned was that a normal highway expansion joint transmits a 6G shock load to the truck floor. Do that about 100,000 times (not an unusual number for 2,000 miles of road) and it will damage your aircraft

  



Rick Girard

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Tim Warlick <timwarlick(at)mchsi.com (timwarlick(at)mchsi.com)> wrote:

  

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		         All,

  

 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to  Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs,  should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26  foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty  compact. What precautions do I need to take?

  

 Tim Warlick

 Kolb Mark 3 Classic

 BMW R100 powered

  

  

    

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zeprep251(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

Tim,

   Trucks are firm riding.I would try to find a trailer. A car hauler is easy to adapt.I'll send you some pictures that may give you some ideas.

 

   G.Aman 5005 miles to MV and back

 

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NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

Tim

  

 For a one way trip like that it might just be alot  easer to fly your plane. The weather this time of year should be fairly good and  no mountains. 

  

 Just a thought

  

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 Rick Neilsen

 Redrive VW powered MKIIIC

  

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cristalclear13

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Transporting a Kolb

 	  timwarlick(at)mchsi.com wrote: 	
		  All,

  

 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to  Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs,  should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26  foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty  compact. What precautions do I need to take?

  

 Tim Warlick

 Kolb Mark 3 Classic

 BMW R100 powered

	


I rented a 26 foot Pennske truck to get my Mark II from northern Alabama to southeast Georgia, about an 8 or 9 hour trip.

The man I bought the plane from had some homemade wood wing holders padded with carpet, and we also padded it with extra moving blankets.  I believe we strapped the wings to the side wall as well.

We nailed some boards into the floor on both sides of the tires (don't know if we were supposed to do that to the truck, but it had a wood floor and we removed it after we were done).  As you can see in the picture we used rachet straps wrapped around the board that runs along the side of the truck wall to help stabilize it.

We put foam in between the horizontal and vertical stabilizer while it was folded up, but we missed a spot and the only damage I had to the entire plane after the move was a small hole in my horizontal stabilizer.



The other ideas already mentioned from others would be a good thing to incorporate if you decide to go with the Uhaul truck.



By the way I had four men to lift the plane in and out of the truck.  My Mark II is about 400 pounds.

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Tom O'Hara

Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Transporting a Kolb

I sent some pics to you this morning.  They have already been posted here a couple of years ago.



Tom

George Alexander

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Posts: 245
Location: SW Florida

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Transporting a Kolb

 	  timwarlick(at)mchsi.com wrote: 	
		  All,

  

 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to  Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs,  should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26  foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty  compact. What precautions do I need to take?

  

 Tim Warlick

 Kolb Mark 3 Classic

 BMW R100 powered

 	




Tim:

If you haven't already, you may want to check my web site (link below in signature tag).  There are a wide variety of techniques used for transporting a Kolb.  (About 16 setups.)

Go to the web site and click on "Trailering a Kolb".

Whatever method you use, the two points that seem to be  consistent are to: get the tail wheel off the floor by supporting the tail boom and support the wings independent of the tail boom.

My $.02 worth.

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

At 11:56 AM 8/30/2009, Tim Warlick wrote:

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 Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to Tucson, AZ.

  

 For those who have transported their Kolbs, should I let the movers try to move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26 foot U-Haul truck and drive it the 23 hours?

  

 Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty compact. What precautions do I need to take? 	


 You REALLY REALLY don't want to trust your plane to movers who know nothing about aircraft!



 I don't know about the later models, but my UltraStar manual has a section about trailering.  The important points are:



 -Plane sits on the main wheels.

 -Use a padded cradle to support the tail boom, don't rest on the tailwheel (the folded wings move too much weight aft for the tailwheel to handle).  The padded cradle is right under the folded wing support.

 -Secure the wings so they can't slip off the supports.



 Why don't you just fly it there?



 -Dana

 

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: Transporting a Kolb

Definitely do not trust removers.

  

 Go and have a look at the local glider peoples  trailers and adapt some of their fittings.

 They trail more than we do.

 Personally I would detach the wings. Just folding  them transfers a lot of weight to the rear wheel.

 Strips or small pieces of carpet are  invaluable.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat 

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