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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:54 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

Some suggestions for events.

How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint).

As far as beating my world record, I'd like to see one of the Lightnings with lower empty weight go for the C-1a record. As many of you know, I missed this class by 10 lbs and wound up in class C-1b. On the subject of records, there was a round the world flight in a light sport from South Africa. I wondered how they did it, and read the full article. That airplane carried 118 gallons of fuel! With two pilots I have to wonder what SA considers light sport. I was trying to find a route with a max 400 nm leg. These guys flew from LA to Hawaii without inflight refueling. I haven't looked at that route for years, but as I recall its about 2100 nm.

Back to the homecoming events. Could we get Joe to do a presentation on flying gliders at Normandy? Did I get that info correct? The only entertainment I have to contribute is a bit on international flying. Is anybody interested in my suggestion for a Caribbean tour?

Pete and the crowd have been gracious host for the past gatherings, and I'm sure they will again. But I wonder how we can contribute to help out. I thought about doing a BBQ, but the logistics don't work, I'd miss the other festivities hovering over the grill. I do plan to bring some of the famous Alabama/Tennessee BBQ slaw. WHAT, you never heard of it? Come and learn, bring your wife or girl friend. Linda can bring Joe.

Looking forward to a great event.

Earl Ferguson
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

Hmmm?

That’s 708lbs of fuel, even if they weigh 100lbs a piece that a 412lbs empty bird? Hmmmmm???

Nick


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Some suggestions for events.



How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint).



As far as beating my world record, I'd like to see one of the Lightnings with lower empty weight go for the C-1a record. As many of you know, I missed this class by 10 lbs and wound up in class C-1b. On the subject of records, there was a round the world flight in a light sport from South Africa. I wondered how they did it, and read the full article. That airplane carried 118 gallons of fuel! With two pilots I have to wonder what SA considers light sport. I was trying to find a route with a max 400 nm leg. These guys flew from LA to Hawaii without inflight refueling. I haven't looked at that route for years, but as I recall its about 2100 nm.



Back to the homecoming events. Could we get Joe to do a presentation on flying gliders at Normandy? Did I get that info correct? The only entertainment I have to contribute is a bit on international flying. Is anybody interested in my suggestion for a Caribbean tour?



Pete and the crowd have been gracious host for the past gatherings, and I'm sure they will again. But I wonder how we can contribute to help out. I thought about doing a BBQ, but the logistics don't work, I'd miss the other festivities hovering over the grill. I do plan to bring some of the famous Alabama/Tennessee BBQ slaw. WHAT, you never heard of it? Come and learn, bring your wife or girl friend. Linda can bring Joe.



Looking forward to a great event.



Earl Ferguson

N17EF

Atlanta (FTY)







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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

Earl,

Joe didn't fly into Normandy; his mission was across the Rhine into Germany. He doesn't have a program on it and Joe is a man of few words; however, I am sure he would tell you about it if you ask him.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

In a message dated 9/1/2009 8:54:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, EAFerguson(at)AOL.COM writes:
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How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint).



Hey World Record Earl,
Good suggestion about the spot landing contest. We could tie that onto the end of the speed dash after the timing over the finish line has been completed  for the out and back. But as you know the real limiting factor on any event like this is man power (I guess I should say people power to be politically correct) so we may not have enough "worker" bees to get everything done. But don't worry about your LSA compliant Lightning not being competitive. The speed dash event will be kind of set up like a sports car rally where "time / speed / distance" will be looked at. So yes, top speed will win one event, but another win will go to the entrant that can best predict their total elapsed time from brake release to time over the finish line.  And of course accurate navigation, choosing the best altitude to take advantage of forecast winds, using the best climb speeds, etc. all will have an outcome on the events. Hey, I guess to really make this event complete we could throw in a bomb drop for accuracy and time over target to come up with some other winners. But as I indicated above - people power may be the limiting factor.
Anyone else out there in Lightning land have any suggestions.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:48 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

In a message dated 9/1/2009 10:43:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lbmathias(at)verizon.net writes:
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Joe didn't fly into Normandy; his mission was across the Rhine into Germany. He doesn't have a program on it and Joe is a man of few words; however, I am sure he would tell you about it if you ask him.

Linda


Joe and Linda,

I knew I didn't have all the details, just enough to peak my curiosity. I'd love to hear more, and I suspect other Lightning folks would also. Are there any pix or other memorabilia you can share?

Earl

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In a message dated 9/1/2009 9:57:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich(at)aol.com writes:
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Hey, I guess to really make this event complete we could throw in a bomb drop for accuracy


That would be a trick. Does Nick have the bomb bay door plans ready yet? I kind of have a bomb sight in mind, but it requires a diving approach. Maybe this idea needs a little time to mature.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

In a message dated 9/2/2009 9:53:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, EAFerguson(at)aol.com writes:
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That would be a trick. Does Nick have the bomb bay door plans ready yet? I kind of have a bomb sight in mind, but it requires a diving approach. Maybe this idea needs a little time to mature.


Does your jet have a small window in the canopy? If not, it might be easier to install a small speed brake to hold your "bomb" than an actual bomb bay. But either way, if your sight is based on the milli radians scale, then just hit the pickle button when the target disappears under your feet. Of course that is based on 50 feet and 540 knots. Hopefully you are carrying high drag MK 50s. Then again if you have a tactical nuc you only have to get close.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Lightning Reunion Reply with quote

As in horseshoes and hand grenades close????
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In a message dated 9/2/2009 2:53:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark(at)flylightning.net writes:
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As in horseshoes and hand grenades close????


Right on, Mark. And will you be entering your 601XL into the speed dash? If so, and since I am going to enter my "highly modified Esqual LS" be sure you and Nick get approval for a supersonic corridor that day. Other wise some of us may have to pull the power back.................... Trash talking??????? You bet.
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