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cristalclear13
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:06 am Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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I'm going to clean my carbs while I have them off. Ronnie mentioned in class what to use to clean it, but I don't think I wrote it down and I doubt I can reach him on this holiday weekend.
The outside of the carbs are cruddy and I've got to clean up the gunk that deteriorated choke seal left behind. Has anyone who has taken the 2 stroke or 4 stroke Rotax class got the information of what product is suggested for cleaning the Bing carbs?
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:46 am Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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Any good carb cleaner in a spray can will work, they are all the same formulation. For cleaning the outside spray on a paper towel and wipe it down good. The little tube is handy for spraying through the passages. Be sure and get the idle bypass line as well as the idle passage. If you have crud or suspect crud in the idle jet a tiny sewing needle will help open it up. A carved down Popsicle stick with the end mushed out a bit will get down in the starting carburetor seat and clean out any debris without damaging the seat itself.
Rick Girard
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On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 9:06 AM, cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com (cristalclearwaters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I'm going to clean my carbs while I have them off. �Ronnie mentioned in class what to use to clean it, but I don't think I wrote it down and I doubt I can reach him on this holiday weekend.
The outside of the carbs are cruddy and I've got to clean up the gunk that deteriorated choke seal left behind. �Has anyone who has taken the 2 stroke or 4 stroke Rotax class got the information of what product is suggested for cleaning the Bing carbs?
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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A guy once told me that compressed air is what cleans a carb.I think he meant the inside passages and I agree.Many solvents will loosen things up but the compressed air removes it
Just a thought.
G.Aman.
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beauford
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 127 Location: Brandon, FL
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:20 pm Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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Miss Cristal:
You can use just about any aerosol can labeled as "throttle body" and carb
cleaner...without worrying about damaging anything on your Bings...if you use
regular aerosol carburetor cleaner, take care that it does not contact any rubber,
nylon or plastic parts like the floats, the anti-bubble screen over the mainjet,
or the white plastic-looking throat slide part...Regular carburetor cleaner is for
metal only. There is a fundamental difference between carb cleaner and "throttle
body" carb cleaners... The former will likely soften and damage any non-metal
parts. Throttle body carburetor cleaners and regular carbuerator cleaners are
often stocked side by side in the auto parts stores. This can be dangerous....
They are different products.
..worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
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Brandon, FL
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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Reminds me of a funny (but not for him) occurrence so long ago. A buddy brought his 4 bbl from his hot rod 55 chev into the barracks for a little work. After the top cover came off he inverted it. yep, those little ball check valves rolled out to who knows where.
I think he ended up buying a new carb. Besides, how would he have known WHICH holes to drop them back in?
He was my good buddy "skinny Greek" (world's best safety wire artist)
BB
On 5, Sep 2009, at 8:08 PM, zeprep251(at)aol.com (zeprep251(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote] A guy once told me that compressed air is what cleans a carb.I think he meant the inside passages and I agree.Many solvents will loosen things up but the compressed air removes it
Just a thought.
G.Aman.
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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Bob,
you gotta hate those WCFB Carters.
G.Aman
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dalewhelan
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 105 Location: USA ARIZONA fountain hills
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Bing carb cleaning |
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Just a note for cleaning jets.
I run a fine wire through the jets to remove any film from the jet walls.
I don't use torch tip cleaners as they will enlarge the jets and richen the mixture.
My favorite wires are, Guitar string, single strand of throttle cable, single strand of wire brush you may use for cleaning a BBQ
Saves me from cleaning twice or wrecking a two stroke motor
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cristalclear13
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Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 363 Location: Southeast Georgia
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Bing carb cleaning |
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beauford wrote: | Miss Cristal:
You can use just about any aerosol can labeled as "throttle body" and carb
cleaner...without worrying about damaging anything on your Bings...if you use
regular aerosol carburetor cleaner, take care that it does not contact any rubber,
nylon or plastic parts like the floats, the anti-bubble screen over the mainjet,
or the white plastic-looking throat slide part...Regular carburetor cleaner is for
metal only. There is a fundamental difference between carb cleaner and "throttle
body" carb cleaners... The former will likely soften and damage any non-metal
parts. Throttle body carburetor cleaners and regular carbuerator cleaners are
often stocked side by side in the auto parts stores. This can be dangerous....
They are different products.
..worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Thanks Beauford and everyone for the advice. I found a friend today (who built his own Glasiar a few years ago). He had some Gumout Carb and Choke Cleaner. It cleaned it up real nice, and he used his air compressor to dry it off and blow out the bit of deteriorated choke seal that had almost plugged up the choke tube. Now I'm just waiting on my new "choke piston with gasket" part to get here. Hoping to get her running by Saturday so I can fly to the Vidalia EAA Annual Fly-In.
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:15 am Post subject: Bing carb cleaning |
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Dale
Good advice about using wires -- and maybe I'm a Nervous Nellie,
but I try to use a BRASS wire to avoid scratches. Usually more
flexible too.
Wonder if JP would approve?
Russ K
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Just a note for cleaning jets.
I run a fine wire through the jets to remove any film from the jet
walls.
I don't use torch tip cleaners as they will enlarge the jets and
richen the mixture.
My favorite wires are, Guitar string, single strand of throttle
cable, single strand of wire brush you may use for cleaning a BBQ
Saves me from cleaning twice or wrecking a two stroke motor
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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JetPilot
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Bing carb cleaning |
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russ(at)rkiphoto.com wrote: | Dale
Good advice about using wires -- and maybe I'm a Nervous Nellie,
but I try to use a BRASS wire to avoid scratches. Usually more
flexible too.
Wonder if JP would approve?
Russ K
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Being the perfectionist I am, I would most definitely use a soft wire as Russ has suggested. I usually use a piece of fishing line just to be extra sure of not scratching anything. If the crud was so hard that fishing line was not enough, I use soft copper wire, or maybe brass and be SUPER careful not to damage or scratch the holes. Sanding down the end of the wire you stick into the holes to take the sharp edge off also prevents scratches in the holes. Scratches is what any crud would build up on and stick to very well in the future.
Mike
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dalewhelan
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 105 Location: USA ARIZONA fountain hills
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Bing carb cleaning |
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I think you are being over cautious, so what, that won't hurt you.
Fishing line is too large to clean the pilot jet.
Soft wire may be difficult to get through a plugged jet.
I have soaked Jets in Gunk Hydroseal, it works well.
Some mechanics I know replace jets to avoid dealing with a running problem caused by an overzealous mechanic.
You may know the history of your carbs maintenance, mechanics often don't get this info.
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