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radio noise on xmit & xponder interrogation

 
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Rowland_Carson



Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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Location: Cheltenham, England

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: radio noise on xmit & xponder interrogation Reply with quote

My friend Tim (who does not inhabit this list) has had a problem
arise with his comm radio that seems to have arisen suddenly, without
any changes to the installation.

He has a MicroAir 760 comm radio, with a FlightTech ITC402P intercom,
installed in a Europa.

Symptoms: intercom works fine, other stations' transmissions heard fine.

When either (P1 or P2) of the PTT buttons is pressed, a loud
distorted noise immediately occurs in both (noise-cancelling)
headsets. The words of the person speaking are barely discernable
through this. However, anyone listening to the transmission on
another comm radio hears the voice OK with no distortion (well, no
more than usual on any airband R/T!). So, the bad stuff is only
happening on the sidetone circuit, not on the signal going out to the
transmitter.

A noise also occurs when the transponder is interrogated. It's
usually not quite so loud as that heard with the PTT, and sounds like
white noise in character. This does seem to come and go - on a recent
trip we got so fed up with TSST, TSST, TSST at irregular intervals in
the headphones that we turned off the xponder on the outbound leg
because we couldn't concentrate. On the return leg we tried it to see
if it was still happening - it seemed considerably quieter and then
after some time ceased to occur at all (we were still getting
interrogated).

However, the distorted sidetone problem remained unabated.

These may be 2 separate things but it's suspicious they have
materialised at the same time.

I'm a bit puzzled as to why this should have suddenly sprung up. My
feeling is that it may be some poor earthing or poor screening in the
microphone leads. But it would need to be somewhere common to both
headset circuits as it is affecting each equally.

We are planning a longer trip this weekend (3 hours each way) and
will need to do much more talking this time. If there was a simple
fix to try before then I'd love to hear about it!

regards

Rowland
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jetboy



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: radio noise on xmit & xponder interrogation Reply with quote

Likely problem is RF getting into the intercom, so check earth braids there first. Ferrite beads placed over certain cables may help, but this cure is reserved for dealing with improper equipment or installations.

The Microair radios do, as part of their "normal" function, transmit noise coming from both mics regardless of which ptt was pressed, but this noise is minor (with a correctly adjusted mic gain) and not the type of RF feedthrough noise you describe.

I'm not quite sure whether his radio has also its own built in intercom, which should be disabled, or used instead of the external intercom.

Ralph


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