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helosammy(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Rivet direction? |
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Hello RV-10 builders,
I have just started building. I pretty much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so far. I have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start riveting the rudder. I started on the horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the rivets? It isn’t really clear in the plans, I think they should probably all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes. Am I correct in thinking they all go the same direction or does it matter? I know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep things straight. Any insight would help, thanks in advance.
Sam Clark
Lexington Park, MD
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: Rivet direction? |
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Sam,With 470 rivets you should try to place the head on the thicker material... Direction has a lot to do with access but if you look real close at the plans it shows direction...learn well here because later you're on your own....Rick SkedN246RS, flyinTech counselor to be
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From: "Sam Clark"
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:51:26 -0400
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Rivet direction?
Hello RV-10 builders,
I have just started building. I pretty = much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so far. I = have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start riveting the = rudder. I started on the horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement = rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I = know which way to orient the rivets? It isn’t really clear in the = plans, I think they should probably all go the same direction so the side I = countersink gives a pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes. Am I correct in thinking they all go the same direction or does it = matter? I know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep = things straight. Any insight would help, thanks in advance.
Sam Clark
Lexington Park, MD
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kearney
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: Rivet direction? |
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Hi Rick
For clarity, I take it you are referring to the shop (formed) head being on the thicker material. The “button” or factory head holds the thinner material. I only mention this because I remember getting confused about the terminology when I started building.
Cheers
Les
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Sent: September-17-09 8:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Rivet direction?
Sam,
With 470 rivets you should try to place the head on the thicker material... Direction has a lot to do with access but if you look real close at the plans it shows direction...learn well here because later you're on your own....
Rick Sked
N246RS, flyin
Tech counselor to be
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From: "Sam Clark"
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:51:26 -0400
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Rivet direction?
Hello RV-10 builders,
I have just started building. I pretty = much jumped right in with both feet and it seems to be going well so far. I = have finished the vert stab and am getting ready to start riveting the = rudder. I started on the horizontal stab spars while waiting for a replacement = rudder stiffener and have come across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I = know which way to orient the rivets? It isn’t really clear in the = plans, I think they should probably all go the same direction so the side I = countersink gives a pretty good clue to the direction a flush rivet goes. Am I correct in thinking they all go the same direction or does it = matter? I know for the trailing edges I should alternate direction to help keep = things straight. Any insight would help, thanks in advance.
Sam Clark
Lexington Park, MD
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kearney
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: Rivet direction? |
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Sam
Here are a couple of things I did to get perfectly straight trailing edges
on my rudder and elevators.
Pix 44 shows how I ensured that the trailing edge wedge was glued securely
to the rudder skin (step 1 page 7-9 of the plans). I reversed one wedge on
top of the wedge to be glued - this gave a flat surface to cleco. To ensure
the wedge was straight and flat, I then held both wedges in place with some
scrap aluminum angle that was clecoed to every hole in the skin.
Pix 39 shows it all clecoed from below).
Pix 201 shows (end on) shows how I clecoed another piece of angle to the
other side when it came time to glue the other side of the rudder on. The
angle ensured that the rudder was glued perfectly straight without any
bowing.
Pix 199 shows an elevator trailing edge all clecoed while the glue was
curing.
After the glue cured, I back riveted the trailing edge as per the plans. In
my case didn't bother alternating the rivets as the trailing edges were all
glued straight.
Cheers
Les
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Clark
Sent: September-17-09 7:51 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Rivet direction?
Hello RV-10 builders,
I have just started building. I pretty much jumped right in with both
feet and it seems to be going well so far. I have finished the vert stab and
am getting ready to start riveting the rudder. I started on the horizontal
stab spars while waiting for a replacement rudder stiffener and have come
across a bit of a perplexing question, how do I know which way to orient the
rivets? It isn't really clear in the plans, I think they should probably
all go the same direction so the side I countersink gives a pretty good clue
to the direction a flush rivet goes. Am I correct in thinking they all go
the same direction or does it matter? I know for the trailing edges I
should alternate direction to help keep things straight. Any insight would
help, thanks in advance.
Sam Clark
Lexington Park, MD
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