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Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: Andair Valves

There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a question on my part.  

   

First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each port.  

   

What model number and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine on order and get it put on the shelf.  

   

Also,  what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return line to send fuel back to the originating  tank.  

   

I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great.  Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to source) valve?  

   

Thanks  

Phil  

   

   

   

   

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rv(at)thelefflers.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:12 am Post subject: Andair Valves

Phil,  

   

You already got several answers on VAF.  Do a quick search and you’ll find more of the same here.   FS20x7 w/ extender is what is needed for the RV-10.   No, you don’t want a duplex.   That is for returning fuel to both tanks, which is not required nor recommended on the IO-540.   Don at Airflow recommends running the purge line to a tee under the right seat just before the fuel valve.  This is used for hot starts.  Just set the valve to the left tank and hot fuel goes back to the right tank.  

   

Bob  

   

       

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There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a question on my part.  

   

First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each port.  

   

What model number and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine on order and get it put on the shelf.  

   

Also,  what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return line to send fuel back to the originating  tank.  

   

I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great.  Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to source) valve?  

   

Thanks  

Phil  

   

   

   

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: Andair Valves

Phil,



Your guess about the duplex valve is correct - dedicated return lines to source tank.



I had QB tanks on my 6A and put a fitting in the side forward of the fuel guage sender 

all the way in to the second bay.  Wasn't a big deal at all.



When I got my duplex valve, I didn't know about the gozillion configurations and would 

have ordered it with -4 fittings for the purge lines and plumbed it back to the tank that 

way - had I known.  I got the one that has all(6) AN6 fittlngs - I don't have the part 

number - but like I said, I would have done one set of AN6 and one set of AN4 had I 

known.



My FI is from AFP and the line from the servo to the purge valve, spider, and back to 

the valve is a -4.  It converts to a -6 line right before the valve.  Check your FI 

system - you might be able to simplify yours like I could have.....



BTW, I oriented my valve such that it points to the left fuel guage when drawing from 

the left tank and points to the right fuel guage when drawing from the right tank.  It 

was a PITB to put together - but real simple in flight.



I attached a photo - during construction - hope it isn't stripped off.  More pics if you 

want.



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jdriggs49(at)msn.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: Andair Valves

I installed the Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB wings. Not really a problem vis-a-vis the wings if you install any fittings BEFORE you install the float level valve. After that it's doable but harder.

  Subject: Andair Valves

Date: Thu C 17 Sep 2009 05:23:35 -0700

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There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a question on my part. 

First C I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each port. 

What model number and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine on order and get it put on the shelf. 

Also C  what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return line to send fuel back to the originating  tank. 

I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank C that sounds great.  Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to source) valve? 

Thanks 

Phil 

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: Re: Andair Valves

I would have definitely changed out the original valve that Vans wassending.  Now they send a nicer valve that doesn't look like the one in my 1965 motor home. I won't be changing this one out since it has a detent and looks a lot better.

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: Andair Valves

Not sure I understand why folks want to do things the hard way. 

Precision injection...no return at all.

AFP...return for purge only...minimal flow, just tee into tank line like 

Bob Leffler suggested.

You do not actively return fuel to any tank when the engine is running, 

unlike Continental engines with TCM injection that return fuel all the 

time, so no need to worry which tank your purge returns to.



Danny Riggs wrote:

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		   I installed the Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB wings. 

 Not really a problem vis-a-vis the wings if you install any fittings 

 BEFORE you install the float level valve. After that it's doable but harder.

  

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 Subject: Andair Valves

 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:23:35 -0700

 From: Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 

 There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a 

 question on my part.

 

  

 

 First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel 

 valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each port.

 

  

 

 What model number and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine 

 on order and get it put on the shelf.

 

  

 

 Also,  what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the 

 duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return 

 line to send fuel back to the originating  tank.

 

  

 

 I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great.  

 Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled 

 and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to 

 source) valve?

 

  

 

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: Andair Valves

I thought the exact same thing--that the new stock valve was much better than the older style.



It was better.  Mine lasted about 300 hours.  I replaced it with an Andair, and I'm really glad I did.  Night and day.

 

We work on a lot of planes with a lot of different valves.  The Andairs are bulletproof and worth what they charge.

Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

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 I would have definitely changed out the original valve that Vans wassending.  Now they send a nicer valve that doesn't look like the one in my 1965 motor home. I won't be changing this one out since it has a detent and looks a lot better.

  

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: Andair Valves

Kelly McMullen and Bob Leffler (and Don Rivera at Airflow Performance!)

have it right.  There is no need to use the Andair duplex valve.  None.  No

benefit... just extra plumbing, fittings and complexity.



I have the purge setup in my 7A plumbed through an Andair valve with a 1/4"

line plumbed to a tee fitting in the left tank line (between the tank and

the valve).  When using the purge valve for a hot start, you put the fuel

selector to the <Right> setting, firewall the throttle and mixture setting,

pull the purge cable to open the purge valve (closing off fuel flow to the

injectors) and engage the boost pump for 30 seconds.  During this time, cool

fuel is being pumped from the <Right> tank to the fuel servo, up to the

spider (where the purge valve is located), through a fire sleeved return

line to a steel bulkhead fitting at the firewall, where the 1/4" line runs

back to that tee in the left fuel tank line and back into the left tank.  30

seconds of pumping cool fuel through that 1/4" line will only move about a

cup of fuel, but that is sufficient to accomplish the purpose.  



After I count to 30, (with boost pump still engaged) push close the purge

valve for a couple of seconds (your now putting fuel out to the injector

lines) and pull open again.  Reset the throttle and mixture to full rich

mixture and 1/8" throttle, engage the starter and begin closing the purge

valve and the engine is now running.



Don't bother with a duplex valve, listen to Don, who builds the system.



Bob Brown

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: Andair Valves

When you install the Andair valves , don't forget to segment the  tunnel cover for future access.

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny  Riggs

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:19 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Andair  Valves

I installed the Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB  wings. Not really a problem vis-a-vis the wings if you install any fittings  BEFORE you install the float level valve. After that it's doable but  harder.

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From: Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com

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There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves  and it raised a question on my part. 

First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a  Andair fuel valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each  port. 

What model number and configurations did you use?   I’d like to get mine on order and get it put on the shelf. 

Also,  what’s the difference between the regular  Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a  dedicated return line to send fuel back to the originating  tank. 

I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that  sounds great.  Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already  assembled and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex  (return to source) valve? 

Thanks 

Phil 

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: Andair Valves

David,  

   

Please elaborate………  

   

It appears to me with the remote extension, the remote selector comes off easily and isn’t a problem with the tunnel cover.  

   

Thanks,  

   

bob  

       

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When you install the Andair valves , don't forget to segment the tunnel cover for future access.  

       

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs

 Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:19 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Andair Valves  

I installed the Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB wings. Not really a problem vis-a-vis the wings if you install any fittings BEFORE you install the float level valve. After that it's doable but harder.

        

  

Subject: Andair Valves

 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:23:35 -0700

 From: Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com    

There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a question on my part.  

   

First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel valves.  And you have to know which fittings you want on each port.  

   

What model number and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine on order and get it put on the shelf.  

   

Also,  what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return line to send fuel back to the originating  tank.  

   

I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great.  Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled and sealed.  Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to source) valve?  

   

Thanks  

Phil  

   

   

   

   

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: Andair Valves

When I received my kit, the tunnel cover was one piece. It  is very unhandy for removal. We segmented the one piece into three. firewall to  aft of fuel selector, then to back of seats , then to aft of flap motor. we also  used CS screws with internal hex head on the center piece to be able remove  without removing flap torque tube covers and front  seats. 

   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob  Leffler

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:33 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Andair  Valves

David, 

Please  elaborate……… 

It  appears to me with the remote extension, the remote selector comes off easily  and isn’t a problem with the tunnel cover. 

Thanks, 

bob 

From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David  McNeill

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:03 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Andair  Valves

When you  install the Andair valves , don't forget to segment the tunnel cover for future  access. 

From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny  Riggs

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:19 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Andair  Valves 

I installed the  Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB wings. Not really a problem  vis-a-vis the wings if you install any fittings BEFORE you install the float  level valve. After that it's doable but harder.

Subject: RV10-List:  Andair Valves

Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:23:35 -0700

From:  Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com  

There’s a  discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised a question on my  part. 

First, I didn’t  realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel valves.  And you have  to know which fittings you want on each port. 

What model number  and configurations did you use?  I’d like to get mine on order and get it  put on the shelf. 

Also,  what’s  the difference between the regular Andair valve and the duplex valve?  My  guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return line to send fuel back to  the originating  tank. 

I’d like to return  the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great.  Except I will be using  QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled and sealed.  Does this mean  I am not a candidate for a duplex (return to source)  valve? 

Thanks 

Phil 

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Andair Valves

Dave, What part of the new Van's fuel valve broke after 300 hours?

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: Andair Valves

I took it apart twice trying to figure out why it didn't feel crisp and smooth.  After the first time, maybe 250 hours (guessing) I put it back together and it didn't feel any different.  From that point it just kept getting tighter and less precise.  I tried one more time.  I never did find anything that looked wrong, but it sure didn't feel as nice as when it was new.

 

I looked at buying a new one since I could buy many Vans valves for the cost of an Andair.  But I eventually figured the effort would catch up to me, maybe the thing would fail at a bad time, and the tunnel was all apart so I just bit the bullet.

 Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell

 



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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Andair Valves

I don't like the sound of failing at a bad time. Thanks for the quick reply.

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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: Andair Valves

I'll second Davids suggestion. During the final phase you will have 

several reasons to reopen the tunnel. Segmenting it can make the process 

easier and allow for more direct access. This is PARTICULARLY true if 

you plan to install a center console on top of the tunnel, or some 

quadrant configurations.



Deems Davis

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		   When I received my kit, the tunnel cover was one piece. It is very 

 unhandy for removal. We segmented the one piece into three. firewall 

 to aft of fuel selector, then to back of seats , then to aft of flap 

 motor. we also used CS screws with internal hex head on the center 

 piece to be able remove without removing flap torque tube covers and 

 front seats.



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 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Leffler

 *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:33 AM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* RE: Andair Valves



 David,



 Please elaborate………



 It appears to me with the remote extension, the remote selector comes 

 off easily and isn’t a problem with the tunnel cover.



 Thanks,



 bob



 *From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com 

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill

 *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:03 PM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* RE: Andair Valves



 When you install the Andair valves , don't forget to segment the 

 tunnel cover for future access.



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 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Danny Riggs

 *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:19 AM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* RE: Andair Valves



 I installed the Andair duplex valve in my -10. I also have the QB 

 wings. Not really a problem vis-a-vis the wings if you install any 

 fittings BEFORE you install the float level valve. After that it's 

 doable but harder.



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 Subject: Andair Valves

 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:23:35 -0700

 From: Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com



 There’s a discussion on VAF about the Andair fuel valves and it raised 

 a question on my part.



 First, I didn’t realize there were so many versions of a Andair fuel 

 valves. And you have to know which fittings you want on each port.



 What model number and configurations did you use? I’d like to get mine 

 on order and get it put on the shelf.



 Also, what’s the difference between the regular Andair valve and the 

 duplex valve? My guess is that the duplex valve has a dedicated return 

 line to send fuel back to the originating tank.



 I’d like to return the fuel to the original tank, that sounds great. 

 Except I will be using QB wings with the fuel tanks already assembled 

 and sealed. Does this mean I am not a candidate for a duplex (return 

 to source) valve?



 Thanks



 Phil



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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Andair Valves

Dave,

Now that I am ordering my Andair valve which AN fittings work the best with the ten.  Do the banjo fittings work well?

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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:47 am Post subject: Andair Valves

No need for the very expensiver banjo fittings. Use the 90 degree Elbow fittings (AN-6,JIC-6) on the side and male AN-6 on the bottom outlet with a FS20x   7T valve.

 

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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: Andair Valves

Other builders might have more to say here.  I didn't use the banjos, just AN hardware in the threaded ports.  I ended up moving my valve forward from the the stock position about 6 inches so none of my mounting details would apply to a standard build.  I moved it so I wouldn't have to take out a bunch of the existing plumbing--I just extended what was there from the stock valve.  Now that it's forward a little, almost directly under the quadrant, I like the placement because it gives a little more room.  But, it doesn't fall quite as easily to hand, which was nice about the stock position.

 

There's been a lot of discussion on the valve install.  Some are using hoses instead of the long, complex tubes.  I'd consider that too, which would make the fitting selection easier.

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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Andair Valves

Thanks again Dave and William

I can get mine on order now.

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