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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: Crash

Gang:



Is this one of our guys?



john h

mkIII

Rock House, Oregon



IDENTIFICATION

  Regis#: 208NS        Make/Model: EXP       Description: KOLB MARK III 

EXTRA

  Date: 09/20/2009     Time: 1434



  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N

  Damage: Unknown



LOCATION

  City: NORTH STONINGTON            State: CT   Country: US



DESCRIPTION

  AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT



INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0

                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk: 

1

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: Crash

Not in the database that I'm accumulating...



FAA registration is to:



 	PATRICK, DANIEL L  	

	Street 	PO BOX 303 	

	City 	NORTH STONINGTON 	State 	CONNECTICUT 	

	County 	NEW LONDON 	Zip Code 	06359-0303 	

	Country 	UNITED STATES

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Gang:



 Is this one of our guys?



 john h

 mkIII

 Rock House, Oregon



 IDENTIFICATION

  Regis#: 208NS        Make/Model: EXP       Description: KOLB MARK III EXTRA

  Date: 09/20/2009     Time: 1434



  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N

  Damage: Unknown



 LOCATION

  City: NORTH STONINGTON            State: CT   Country: US



 DESCRIPTION

  AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT



 INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0

                # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk: 1

_________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert Laird
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: Crash

Dan Patrick.

Newly built MK-3X  Was not his first flight. Low time Light sport pilot.

I know no more details, but will try to find out.



Jim Kmet



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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: Crash

John,



 	  Quote: 	
		  From the N number


	


 	PATRICK DANIEL L  	 

	Street 	PO BOX 303 	

	  	

	City 	NORTH STONINGTON 	State 	CONNECTICUT 	

	County 	NEW LONDON 	Zip Code 	06359-0303 	

	Country 	UNITED STATES



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

At 01:12 PM 9/21/09 -0600, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Gang:



Is this one of our guys?



john h

mkIII

Rock House, Oregon



IDENTIFICATION

  Regis#: 208NS        Make/Model: EXP       Description: KOLB MARK III 

EXTRA

  Date: 09/20/2009     Time: 1434



  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N

  Damage: Unknown



LOCATION

  City: NORTH STONINGTON            State: CT   Country: US



DESCRIPTION

  AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT



INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0

                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk: 

1

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Crash

a little news:



http://www.courant.com/community/hc-north-stonington-aircraft- 

crashes-0921,0,3842844.story

Bb

do not archive



On 21, Sep 2009, at 3:57 PM, Robert Laird wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Not in the database that I'm accumulating...



 FAA registration is to:



  	PATRICK, DANIEL L  	

 	Street 	PO BOX 303 	

 	City 	NORTH STONINGTON 	State 	CONNECTICUT 	

 	County 	NEW LONDON 	Zip Code 	06359-0303 	

 	Country 	UNITED STATES

 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>  

 wrote:

> 

>

> Gang:

>

> Is this one of our guys?

>

> john h

> mkIII

> Rock House, Oregon

>

> IDENTIFICATION

>  Regis#: 208NS        Make/Model: EXP       Description: KOLB MARK  

> III EXTRA

>  Date: 09/20/2009     Time: 1434

>

>  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N     

> Missing: N

>  Damage: Unknown

>

> LOCATION

>  City: NORTH STONINGTON            State: CT   Country: US

>

> DESCRIPTION

>  AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT

>

> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0

>                # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:    

> 0     Unk: 1

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: Crash

http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=5d675b44-34d3-42f4-a655-443e0aa41494



http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=5d675b44-34d3-42f4-a655-443e0aa41494



Dan was not a kolb-lister

Jim Kmet



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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: Crash

First Selectman Nicholas Mulane,>>



This from the crash report. What is a First Selectman please?



Pat

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: crash

Pat- A Board of Selectman is a form of government used in some small towns in Connecticut and elsewhere.  Usually three people are elected to the board, and the top vote getter is the First Selectman.  Kind of like a town mayor.

  

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                                              Bill Sullivan

                                              Windsor Locks, Ct. (Has selectmen)

                                              FS 447

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rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: Crash

Local politician, like a county councilor.



Rick Girard

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:11 AM, pj.ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com (pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:

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 First Selectman Nicholas Mulane,>>

 

 This from the crash report. What is a First Selectman please?

 

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jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:15 am Post subject: Crash

Message to me from Dan Patrick about mishap:



Hi Jim I just got in from the field preping to get the plane out. Am fine 

just a little back and neck stiff. Y ou know the old saying "low and slow" 

on final 20o flaps rt.hand for flaps and stick to lt. hand, I went to 

40obefore the tree line, ?little low, flaps to 20o switching hands I push 

flap handle up and by accident other hand put slight forward pressure on the 

stick. I added throttle and back on the stick. Landing gear caught branches 

and went in. Poor judgement being that low. All is O K,will rebuild. Thanks 

for the inquiry



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Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: Crash

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED  

 

  

Jim Kmet wrote:  << Dan Patrick. Newly built MK-3X  Was not his first flight. Low time Light sport pilot.  I know no more details, but will try to find out. >>  

   

This XTra was powered by an HKS-700.    

   

Not trying to speculate here, but I wonder if being underpowered could have contributed to Dan’s unfortunate accident.  Isn’t 60 hp somewhat marginal power for a Mark-IIIX?  

   

Dennis Kirby  

New Mexico  

   

   

      

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:54 am Post subject: crash

Kind of like a town  mayor.>>

  

 Thanks Bill,

 In theory in the UK you have to have a cathedral to  be a city and you have to be a city to have a Mayor.

 Smaller places have `Chairman of the  Council`.

  

 Like so much else the edges have become blurred  and  my local town, where my father was Chairman of the Council about 4  times during his 25 years as a Councillor now has a Mayor. The Council is  elected with a third coming up for re election every 3 years, but the Council  elect their own Chairman.

  

 Its all part of giving a posh title to everybody. I  remember when the roadsweeper, a title with which he seemed to be completely  happy, became a `lengthsman`. Presumably because he was responsible for a length  of road. He is something even more grandiose now.

 Its all very Gilbert and Sullivan. "When everyone  is somebody then no ones anybody"

 You just have a bigger name tag. A bigger patch on  your arm. Just to keep this Kolb related I saw a guy at a fly in  with a  pair of gold wings and a patch with his name on with PILOT on it Good  grief!

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat

 



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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:58 am Post subject: crash

"Pilot" ?  Wouldn't he be a "volumesman"

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:54 AM, pj.ladd <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		     Kind of like a town mayor.>>



 Thanks Bill,

 In theory in the UK you have to have a cathedral to be a city and you have

 to be a city to have a Mayor.

 Smaller places have `Chairman of the Council`.



 Like so much else the edges have become blurred and  my local town, where my

 father was Chairman of the Council about 4 times during his 25 years as a

 Councillor now has a Mayor. The Council is elected with a third coming up

 for re election every 3 years, but the Council elect their own Chairman.



 Its all part of giving a posh title to everybody. I remember when the

 roadsweeper, a title with which he seemed to be completely happy, became a

 `lengthsman`. Presumably because he was responsible for a length of road. He

 is something even more grandiose now.

 Its all very Gilbert and Sullivan. "When everyone is somebody then no ones

 anybody"

 You just have a bigger name tag. A bigger patch on your arm. Just to keep

 this Kolb related I saw a guy at a fly in  with a pair of gold wings and a

 patch with his name on with PILOT on it Good grief!



 Cheers



 Pat






	


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_________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Robert Laird
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject: Crash

At 12:15 PM 9/22/2009, Jim Kmet wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Message to me from Dan Patrick about mishap:



Hi Jim I just got in from the field preping to get the plane out. Am fine 

just a little back and neck stiff. Y ou know the old saying "low and slow" 

on final 20o flaps rt.hand for flaps and stick to lt. hand, I went to 

40obefore the tree line, ?little low, flaps to 20o switching hands I push 

flap handle up and by accident other hand put slight forward pressure on 

the stick. I added throttle and back on the stick. Landing gear caught 

branches and went in. Poor judgement being that low. All is O K,will rebuild.


	


Low and slow, dump the flaps and the plane's gonna settle.  Proper 

procedure at that point would be add power first, then slowly lift the 

flaps as the plane accelerates.



I'm in Conneticut but I don't know Dan; there are quite a few Kolbs around 

here... glad to hear he's OK.



-Dana



--

  Aviation is like drugs:  You go up, then you come down.  You are out a 

big pile of money and have nothing to show for it but the experience.

And you can't wait to do it again.

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