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rickofudall
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
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Location: Udall, KS, USA
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 Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Went to a Young Eagles event to get pictures for the newsletter, free breakfast, pilot shmoozing, etc. Held up by ground fog, took off out of Cherokee on 35 held a crab against a west northwest wind only to arrive at Augusta to find them using 18 for ease in dispatching Young Eagles in spite of the quartering down wind. Made a good landing with the traffic and was having a real nice time until one of the club members lost it on landing and ground looped his Aeronca, tearing off a main gear and closing the airport while the FAA did their business. Field finally opened and all tail dragger pilots agreed even though the wind was almost due west the downwind component was still problematic. I taxied to 36, did runup and off. Climb to 700' heading for 1000' on downwind departure when things went quiet. Check fuel valve, on the correct tank, try for a restart since no symptoms of seizure, nada. Turn toward runway, maintain 55 to 60, looking good except for the idiot in the nose dragger taking off downwind. Went over the top of him at about 150' and slightly to the side just in case he didn't see me, made the runway for a relatively uneventful landing. Airport guys on duty for the fly in helped me push Zulu Delta back to parking. Walked around thanking Spencer and my lucky stars for about 10 minutes then started trying to diagnose the problem. Found that I had fuel from tank to selector valve and from boost pump to carbs, but no fuel from valve to pump. This is why I use the clear blue fuel line and change it out when it gets a brownish tint. Turned selector valve to all options no fuel drawn into empty lines. Pulled fuel line from inlet side of pump and blew back through lines. Reconnected and fuel pulled all the way to pump. Engine started normally. Paced around some more and decided to make a field fix and fly home if possible. Went to the auto parts store for a fuel filter to put in line from tank to selector valve figuring if there was a piece of junk in the tank it would be trapped in the filter and not clog valve. Engine started normally, climbed to 3500' over field and flew the 20 miles home. Things I learned;
Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop wind mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped as I was gliding in. So much for that idea.
Should have taken the tank out to mount fuel gage sender rather than settling for vacuuming out after installation. Dumb.
Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the aircraft.
Rick Girard
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PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
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rowedenny
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Location: Western PA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop wind mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped as I was gliding in. So much for that idea.
Rick Girard
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Rick,
The higher the gear ratio, the less likely the prop will back drive the engine and windmill. The engine has a 4 to 1 mechanical advantage on the prop, no way that sucker is going to windmill at our speeds.
Denny Rowe
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rowedenny
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Rick,
Forgot to say Great job on getting down safe!
Glad you're OK.
Denny
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Rick, you think the chunk is gone? I hate when those seeds of doubt get planted.I could have grown a garden with them this year.
BTW, the Aeronca legs shouldn't break with a mere groundloop unless he hit a rock.
They have a single bolt at the bottom of the cabin that fastens the whole works together.
It takes a heavy shear load with hard landings and will eventually fail.
A lot of them are never removed for inspection even for a recover.
BB
On 26, Sep 2009, at 7:26 PM, Denny Rowe wrote:
[quote]Rick,
Forgot to say Great job on getting down safe!
Glad you're OK.
Denny
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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At 05:11 PM 9/26/2009, you wrote:
| Quote: | Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the aircraft.
Rick Girard
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PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
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That's normal - most of the time, when you're that close to the ground, you
won't remember you have a chute.
More than once for me.
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lcottrell
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Location: Jordan Valley, Or
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Hopefully you aren't disappointed that you didn't pull the cord for the chute. Now if the wing had fallen off, I could see that you might be a bit put out that you didn't pull the chute, but other wise, I would think you would be happy with your handling of the situation.
Larry
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rickofudall
Joined: 19 Sep 2009
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Location: Udall, KS, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Yeah, I'm pretty pleased, but then it worked out, right? As for the chuck of whatever, no, the tank has to come out and be thoroughly cleaned. It's a week to payday and more flying time so I have something to do.  I don't know about the Aeronca, I wasn't watching. I visited the crash site, it ended up in a ditch, and it looked like the lugs had failed, but I didn't get a chance to look that closely.
Rick
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com (lcottrell(at)fmtcblue.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hopefully you aren't disappointed that you didn't pull the cord for the chute. Now if the wing had fallen off, I could see that you might be a bit put out that you didn't pull the chute, but other wise, I would think you would be happy with your handling of the situation.
Larry
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Carl Tosh
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
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Location: Douglass,Kansas
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Rick, sounds as if things were real exciting today at Augusta Airport. I started to go to the flyin but, my grandson wanted to go fishing. We went to Butler Lake and youngin landed a 2lb. bass he was very excited. I would rather have went to flyin and got him a young eagles ride, he's 9yrs. old. I maybe would have met you. I live out by Smillyburg east of Douglass. We know some of same people, the Alleys, Lawrance, WWII pilot and his son Terry. Lawrance flies clipped wing Cub and Terry now has a Kitfox Lite, with half VW. Terry goes to Selby field ever once in a while. I have a Micro Mong biplane with an A084a (Hercules engine) and I'm rebuilding an old Ultrastar. So glad you didn't get hurt today. Carl
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
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Rick,
So glad to hear you handled the engine-out landing well, especially considering you had to dodge a wrong way departing aircraft. I guess your prior prop stopped glide practice paid off, knowing what sort of glide you could expect compared to idle power glide.
Good report on suspected problem too.
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