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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: opening door in flight/ early 701 doors Reply with quote

I like Chris' old design door on the early 701's. Bubble framed door with a window that opened. I'll do the same type of door on my 750----or have the upper part like a cub (swing up) and the lower part hinged on the forward edge. I haven't decided yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: opening door in flight/ early 701 doors Reply with quote

Another option is to install tracks inside the cabin and lift the door up like a window.
Ken

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: opening door in flight/ early 701 doors Reply with quote

Tracy,
Why not just remove the doors before you take off? Just pull the long hinge pin out and off you go. If you do this be prepared to ride in a very windy cockpit. My plane flies OK without doors but we get plenty of prop wash.
Les

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I like Chris' old design door on the early 701's. Bubble framed door with a window that opened. I'll do the same type of door on my 750----or have the upper part like a cub (swing up) and the lower part hinged on the forward edge. I haven't decided yet.



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Subject: Re: opening door in flight



It seems like opening the bubble doors in flight would be a terrible idea. They have a large surface area combined with a cup shape.



This would in the least create a large pitch variation and adverse yaw if not opened on both sides.



The forces exerted against the frame and hinge would be large given the long length. If the hinge did not give out, then at least a large stress will be placed on the subframe there.



If the door did come off then the risk to catastrophic damage to the tail seems great.





Wasn't there an indicdent mentioned on the list where the door popped open in flight causing it to tear off and hit the tail?

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has anyone moded the new style buble doors to open in flight?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: opening door in flight/ early 701 doors Reply with quote

I have not seen this type, any idea where there may be pics of it. I would like to open and close during flight as well.

Kevin

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