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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

On 07/08/2009 07:37 AM, Harley wrote:
Quote:
I think I did mention that in one of the emails I sent. In response
to other concerns over the camera's diameter being too large to fit in
a spark plug hole, I also mentioned that there is a 9 mm camera and
extension available for the Ridgid unit, that might fit the HF one. I
believe that smaller camera version was listed as having a shorter
focal length.

Here is the 9.5mm camera for $107:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

You can also get the Rigid inspection camera unit here for $85,
which I think is the same thing as the HF unit:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31133.htm>

They also have a $49 version. I'm not sure what the differences are:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31128.htm>

fyi

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

They look identical to the borescope I bought from Harbor Freight a few
months ago. Excellent tool. Has a solid, firm feel to it, too. One ad
mentioned a 30 foot extension? Where can I find one of those?
Oh, the one I have allows the video head to be removed from the handheld
and can be moved some feet away from where the actual tool is working,
allowing others to see.

David M.

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On 07/08/2009 07:37 AM, Harley wrote:
> I think I did mention that in one of the emails I sent. In response
> to other concerns over the camera's diameter being too large to fit in
> a spark plug hole, I also mentioned that there is a 9 mm camera and
> extension available for the Ridgid unit, that might fit the HF one. I
> believe that smaller camera version was listed as having a shorter
> focal length.

Here is the 9.5mm camera for $107:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

You can also get the Rigid inspection camera unit here for $85,
which I think is the same thing as the HF unit:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31133.htm>

They also have a $49 version. I'm not sure what the differences are:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31128.htm>

fyi

-Dj



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

DJ,

It appears that the $49 "version" isn't a less expensive camera but a 3' extension cable for the $85 camera unit.

I'm considering ordering the basic camera and the 9.5mm camera head. Looks very interesting.

Bob Borger
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On Wednesday, September 30, 2009, at 09:38AM, "Dj Merrill" <deej(at)deej.net> wrote:
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On 07/08/2009 07:37 AM, Harley wrote:
> I think I did mention that in one of the emails I sent. In response
> to other concerns over the camera's diameter being too large to fit in
> a spark plug hole, I also mentioned that there is a 9 mm camera and
> extension available for the Ridgid unit, that might fit the HF one. I
> believe that smaller camera version was listed as having a shorter
> focal length.

Here is the 9.5mm camera for $107:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

You can also get the Rigid inspection camera unit here for $85,
which I think is the same thing as the HF unit:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31133.htm>

They also have a $49 version. I'm not sure what the differences are:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31128.htm>

fyi

-Dj

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

Ok, the difference between the $49 and $85 versions appears to be the
length of the cable. The $49 is 3 feet while the $85 is 6 feet,
according to the ads. Mine is 3 feet from HF. Heckuva bargain at $49.

David M.

Dj Merrill wrote:
Quote:


On 07/08/2009 07:37 AM, Harley wrote:
> I think I did mention that in one of the emails I sent. In response
> to other concerns over the camera's diameter being too large to fit in
> a spark plug hole, I also mentioned that there is a 9 mm camera and
> extension available for the Ridgid unit, that might fit the HF one. I
> believe that smaller camera version was listed as having a shorter
> focal length.

Here is the 9.5mm camera for $107:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

You can also get the Rigid inspection camera unit here for $85,
which I think is the same thing as the HF unit:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31133.htm>

They also have a $49 version. I'm not sure what the differences are:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31128.htm>

fyi

-Dj



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

DJ (and others)...

Be careful that you know what you order from the website you linked below. 
Cjeck out the next page:
www.reliablepaper.com/Ridgid_SeeSnake_micro_Inspection_Camera_s/6295.htm

It looks like they used a stock picture of the entire camera set for not only the camera head, but each of the accessory options except the 9mm camera.

If that's true, then even if you get the camera, you will still have to buy the cable and the accessory kit separately...the $49 version appears to be JUST the 3 foot cable extension. When you get done buying everything you need, it'll be a bit more than the HF unit which is $139 right now, but goes on "sale" regularly for $99..

Having said that, the major difference between the Rigid unit and the Harbor Freight one, is that the HF unit has a REMOVABLE screen that is wireless.  I was able to remove the screen, plug it in to my computer, then walk out to the garage while recording what it was seeing into my computer (it doesn't come with the software to do that, just an video cable...I already had an video to digital converter and the software).

I tried using the HF unit with the screen attached several times, but even for simple inspections, it was easier to detach it so I could manipulate the camera without having to stand on my head to see the screen.

Harley Dixon
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net> (deej(at)deej.net)

On 07/08/2009 07:37 AM, Harley wrote:
Quote:
I think I did mention that in one of the emails I sent. In response
to other concerns over the camera's diameter being too large to fit in
a spark plug hole, I also mentioned that there is a 9 mm camera and
extension available for the Ridgid unit, that might fit the HF one. I
believe that smaller camera version was listed as having a shorter
focal length.

Here is the 9.5mm camera for $107:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

You can also get the Rigid inspection camera unit here for $85,
which I think is the same thing as the HF unit:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31133.htm>

They also have a $49 version. I'm not sure what the differences are:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-31128.htm>

fyi

-Dj

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

On 09/30/2009 11:45 AM, Harley wrote:
Quote:
DJ (and others)...

Be careful that you know what you order from the website you linked
below.
Cjeck out the next page:
www.reliablepaper.com/Ridgid_SeeSnake_micro_Inspection_Camera_s/6295.htm


Thanks! I didn't catch that.

Looks like the camera unit itself is $76 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-26663.htm>

plus the 9.5mm camera and cable for $107 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

so it would cost around $183 in total for the smaller camera.

It is not clear whether you would also have to buy the accessory pack
(mirrors) separately for $17 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Hook_Magnet_and_Mirror_Attachment_Accessory_Pack_p/632-26668.htm>

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

didn't someone get an inspection camers from harbor frt.? how did it work out?
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On 09/30/2009 11:45 AM, Harley wrote:
Quote:
DJ (and others)...

Be careful that you know what you order from the website you linked
below.
Cjeck out the next page:
www.reliablepaper.com/Ridgid_SeeSnake_micro_Inspection_Camera_s/6295.htm
>

   Thanks!  I didn't catch that.

Looks like the camera unit itself is $76 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-26663.htm>

plus the 9.5mm camera and cable for $107 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>
so it would cost around $183 in total for the smaller camera.

It is not clear whether you would also have to buy the accessory pack
(mirrors) separately for $17 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Hook_Magnet_and_Mirror_Attachment_Accessory_Pack_p/632-26668.htm>

-Dj
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

I got one. Works great! I like it.

David M.

bob noffs wrote:
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didn't someone get an inspection camers from harbor frt.? how did it
work out?
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net
<mailto:deej(at)deej.net>> wrote:


<mailto:deej(at)deej.net>>

On 09/30/2009 11:45 AM, Harley wrote:
> DJ (and others)...
>
> Be careful that you know what you order from the website you linked
> below.
> Cjeck out the next page:
>
www.reliablepaper.com/Ridgid_SeeSnake_micro_Inspection_Camera_s/6295.htm
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Ridgid_SeeSnake_micro_Inspection_Camera_s/6295.htm>
>

Thanks! I didn't catch that.

Looks like the camera unit itself is $76 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/SeeSnake_Micro_Inspection_Camera_p/632-26663.htm>

plus the 9.5mm camera and cable for $107 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Imager_Head_and_Cable_p/632-30068.htm>

so it would cost around $183 in total for the smaller camera.

It is not clear whether you would also have to buy the accessory pack
(mirrors) separately for $17 at:
<http://www.reliablepaper.com/Hook_Magnet_and_Mirror_Attachment_Accessory_Pack_p/632-26668.htm>

-Dj


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

bob noffs wrote:
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didn't someone get an inspection camers from harbor frt.? how did it work out?
bob noffs
Yep, Bob...a whole bunch of us did.

You must have missed my previous email today on this topic, as I mentioned a couple of uses I've put it to.

In addition to those (including recording the inspections directly into my computer), I used it to repair a pocket door (like the doors on Star Trek...slide into the wall) at a friends house that had jumped the track INSIDE the pocket. I used the camera to look in along the top edge of the door from the end and see which side it jumped off on, and what was needed to get it back on the track...also used it to watch what I was doing as I maneuvered it back on track. Without a camera like that, she would have had to tear out the trim molding and then cut a hole in the wall behind it just to see what the problem was, and then probably cut another hole to adjust it.

As far as my Long EZ, so far, I've checked the hell hole to find tools and small parts I've dropped in there...inspected the inside of the strakes, both from inside the fuselage, and through the holes in the strake used to tighten the wing mounting bolts, and just today found some washers I had dropped into the nose when installing the electric nose lift (the fuselage is currently upside down ...I used the magnet to pick up the washers once I saw them lying between the nose block and the forward edge of the back battery bulkhead ).

When I get the holes cut for the fuel tank filler, I'll be using it to examine the inside of the tanks. It can also electrically flip and/or rotate the image on the screen. Don't know if the others do that.

The HF camera has been worth every penny! You just have to remember that with the camera it comes with, if you want a sharp focus, then what you are viewing should be further away than 4 inches...that smaller 9mm camera is advertised to have a shorter focal range if you want to see something close, and pay the extra money for it.

As I mentioned earlier, the best part is being able to remove the screen...then you don't have to twist around in weird positions to try to look at it as you move the camera handle.

Harley

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

One of my best uses is looking inside the cylinders, via the spark plug
openings.

David M.

Harley wrote:
Quote:
bob noffs wrote:
> didn't someone get an inspection camers from harbor frt.? how did it
> work out?
> bob noffs
Yep, Bob...a whole bunch of us did.

You must have missed my previous email today on this topic, as I
mentioned a couple of uses I've put it to.

In addition to those (including recording the inspections directly into
my computer), I used it to repair a pocket door (like the doors on Star
Trek...slide into the wall) at a friends house that had jumped the track
INSIDE the pocket. I used the camera to look in along the top edge of
the door from the end and see which side it jumped off on, and what was
needed to get it back on the track...also used it to watch what I was
doing as I maneuvered it back on track. Without a camera like that, she
would have had to tear out the trim molding and then cut a hole in the
wall behind it just to see what the problem was, and then probably cut
another hole to adjust it.

As far as my Long EZ, so far, I've checked the hell hole to find tools
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

One of my best uses is looking inside the cylinders, via the spark plug
openings.

David M.

Is it small enough to enter a spark plug hole?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a 4" or so
minimum focus distance?

Can you look back at the valves?

And what does it look like the wireless range might be?

I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the video
on the computer. Have you tried this?

Thanks,

Allen Fulmer
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

THeoretically you could look at the valves with the mirror but I haven't
done that.
As to range, I've had it contact stuff and it was almost in focus.
Range for the wireless part is a few feet inside the house if there's a
wall between you and maybe 25 or 30 feet outside. So range varies.
It does have a video out port so getting it into a computer is a snap.

David M.

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And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a 4" or so
minimum focus distance?

Can you look back at the valves?

And what does it look like the wireless range might be?

I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the video
on the computer. Have you tried this?

Thanks,

Allen Fulmer
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Inspection camera Reply with quote

Allen Fulmer wrote:
And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a 4" or so
minimum focus distance?

Can you look back at the valves?

And what does it look like the wireless range might be?

I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the video
on the computer. Have you tried this?

Thanks,

Allen Fulmer
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

I'd like to add something to David's replies...

The camera head as supplied is too big to fit into the spark plug hole...but just a touch too big. I didn't think of inserting the mirror into the spark plug hole with the camera still outside...a possibility. I just checked the mirror size, and it is only a very little bit smaller than the camera...not sure that it would fit either.

The smaller, 9mm camera mentioned from another supplier may work, IF you want to spend the extra $100 AND IF it works with the HF camera...haven't heard from anyone on that yet, and haven't needed to try it myself.

As far as the wireless range, the first day I had the HF camera (read that while the batteries were still fresh <G>), I detached the display from the camera head, connected the supplied video cable into my computer's converter's analog video input plug, and started recording the image using the Pinnacle Video capture program that came with the video/digital converter.

I then walked the camera through the house, and outside to try to determine the range. The computer is located in the west end bedroom (now a "computer" room <G>) of my house, and I was able to go into the middle of the garage attached to the east end of my house (~40 feet away..through two rooms and down a 20 foot hall) before I lost the signal, and outside about halfway down the front yard (also about 40 feet).

Just tried it again...same original batteries that I first installed in it. Interesting results. I put the camera on my desk here in the computer room and turned it on, then walked the display away until I lost the signal.

The camera remained inside, here on my desk. I got as far as the garage door (about 35 feet away) inside the house...but when I took it outside, I was able to go across the street into the neighbor's yard before the display shut down (it goes black when it can't receive a signal)...about 90 feet...with the camera inside my house! I did have to rotate to get the best signal, a bit like locating a cell phone signal, but the image was still very readable when I locked it in while in Tom's front yard...and it's a dreary rainy day here.

Except for the handle color, the hard case and a couple of the accessories, this unit is identical to the HF one: www.nteinc.com/wic There is a video describing it (actually, a narrated slide show).

Looks to me like a lot of companies are seeing the advantage of this camera and putting their own brand on it. If you google "wireless inspection camera" you'll get dozens of different brand labels on the same unit. But so far, from my search, HF is the lowest cost...especially when it's on sale for $99 (it may be on sale at the store as it was here, even though it didn't show a sale online).

And, I, for one, am pleased with it.

Harley

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THeoretically you could look at the valves with the mirror but I haven't done that.
As to range, I've had it contact stuff and it was almost in focus.
Range for the wireless part is a few feet inside the house if there's a wall between you and maybe 25 or 30 feet outside. So range varies.
It does have a video out port so getting it into a computer is a snap.

David M.



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And with the HF model you can focus inside the cylinder okay with a 4" or so
minimum focus distance?

Can you look back at the valves?

And what does it look like the wireless range might be?

I think someone said it came with a cable to allow you to record the video
on the computer. Have you tried this?

Thanks,

Allen Fulmer
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One of my best uses is looking inside the cylinders, via the spark plug openings.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: inspection camera Reply with quote

harley,
 thanks for the info on your camera, bob noffs
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

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The camera head as supplied is too big to fit into the spark plug
hole...but just a touch too big.

On my unit, I found the body of the camera to just match the plug hole dia.
However, there was a raised arrow cast on the side of the side of the body
that caused interference. After a little judicial use of a single edged
razor the arrow is now flush, yet discernable, and the camera now fits into
the hole.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Inspection camera Reply with quote

When I checked it on my Lycoming O235, the camera did fit inside the beginning of the spark plug hole, but the threads in the hole got in the way from there on in...removing that little bit of plastic may have helped, but I didn't do it figuring that I wouldn't be able to see anything anyway since the camera would be pointing toward the crankcase and not the valves and I wouldn't be able to bend the camera in the short radius needed to look at the valves if it did get inside.

Maybe the smaller 9mm camera may be able to do that...

Harley
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The camera head as supplied is too big to fit into the spark plug
hole...but just a touch too big.

On my unit, I found the body of the camera to just match the plug hole dia.
However, there was a raised arrow cast on the side of the side of the body
that caused interference. After a little judicial use of a single edged
razor the arrow is now flush, yet discernable, and the camera now fits into
the hole.

glen matejcek
aerobubba(at)earthlink.ne (aerobubba(at)earthlink.ne)

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