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naumuk(at)windstream.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: Matco brake installation

All-

     No response from Zenith on  several subjects for the past couple of weeks.

     Didn't receive any instructions  for the installation of my Matco brakes+wheels. If anyone has the applicable  information for an HD/HDS, please forward. Thanks.

 Bill Naumuk

Townville, Pa.

HDS N601MG/Corvair  95%

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: Matco brake installation

Hi Bill,

The Matco install is probably not much more than getting the orientation 

of the brake correct for the rotors and at an angle that

will permit easy plumbing.

 The picture of this gear shows the brake installed with the red cap on 

the bottom and the brake angled down and to the rear.

This allows easy plumbing with the brake inside, or between the mains. 

When installed this way, you should be able to jack the

fork and remove the wheel and rotor intact and without disassembly of 

the brake assembly on the fork.

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/forkscut.gif

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/brakes2forks.gif

Then all you need is a tuff flex hose that can take the beating from the 

brake to a connection with a standard brake line at the wing.

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/tubetireandwasher.gif  

Suggest the S83 Michelin 3.5 x 8.0 tires from a motorscooter

for $35.00 each with tubes that have bent stems. Farm and Fleet has 

rubber fender washers that protect the tubes really well.



Hope this is helpful,

Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



Bill Naumuk wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   All-

     No response from Zenith on several subjects for the past couple of 

 weeks.

     Didn't receive any instructions for the installation of my Matco 

 brakes+wheels. If anyone has the applicable information for an HD/HDS, 

 please forward. Thanks.

 Bill Naumuk

 Townville, Pa.

 HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%

MHerder

Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Fort Worth TX

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Matco brake installation

HI Bill,



My Matco's on my HD came with generic instructions for installation (not Zenith Specific).  I consulted with King Larry's website, found some photos and compared...  Found that my brakes provided were slightly different than his but basically the same, the main thing that I found in Matco's instructions was to put the brakes on the rear whenever possible.   Contact me offline and I'll see if I can snap a photo for you of what I did.



When in doubt, I consult Larry's website, all HD/HDS builders owe it to themselves to visit his site.  THANKS SO MUCH LARRY!!!  Youve saved hours of head scratchin!!!

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Jabiru 3300
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naumuk(at)windstream.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Matco brake installation

Larry-

    I just emptied the shipping box for the first time today- parts and old 

newspaper but no instructions. I was more concerned with how to mount the 

rotor assembly to the fork than anything else. 1/4" SAE mounting the rotor 

assembly, with no spacers between the rotor and fork? Thanks.

                                                                             

          Bill

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: Matco brake installation

Bill,

Once you've spacer centered your wheel in the fork, the brake calipers 

will bolt on and you can decide what may be needed to get the pads

float pattern centered each side of the rotors.



Larry



Bill Naumuk wrote:

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 Larry-

    I just emptied the shipping box for the first time today- parts and 

 old newspaper but no instructions. I was more concerned with how to 

 mount the rotor assembly to the fork than anything else. 1/4" SAE 

 mounting the rotor assembly, with no spacers between the rotor and 

 fork? Thanks.

                                                                             

          Bill

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jlatimer1(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: Matco brake installation

Bill,



The Zenith site has an 6 page manual that I used to install my brakes.



http://www.zenithair.com/pdf-doc/6-gear.pdf



Have you seen it.  I will also attach the PDF.



Jerry

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naumuk(at)windstream.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: Matco brake installation

Jerry-

    Just recently. Will try and make adjustments to my installation.

                                                                Bill

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mosquito56

Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 77
Location: Laredo, Tx

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Matco brake installation

I am trying to find a diagram of how to connect a Mc5 master with a mc-4 slave. The slave has two holes but the master only has one. 

  Can someone expain or show picture of correct connections?

  I assume that top of slave goes to resevoir and bottom goes to T on master then to the brake. 

  Help

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psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: Matco brake installation

Hi Don,



I hope my memory is correct . . .



The  master has a reservoir in the top of the cylinder.  The single 

port is for connection to the wheel cylinder .  .  .



The slave goes in the line between the master and the wheel cylinder.



I found a drawing on the Aircraft Spruce web site that shows which 

end of the slave goes to the master and which goes to the wheel.



The fun part is figuring out how to get all the lines full of fluid 

with no bubbles.  The trick I learned is to do just the opposite of 

what you do when you bleed brakes.  With the lines and cylinders 

empty you connect a pump and load of hydraulic fluid (airplanes don't 

use brake fluid, they use the red stuff) and then pump fluid from the 

bottom of the system all the way to the top of the master 

cylinder.  Suitable pumps can be something like a plastic ketchup 

bottle or an oil can with one of those little pump handles built in 

attached to the bleed valve on the wheel cylinder with a foot or two 

of flexible hose.



Good luck,



Paul

XL awaiting release of upgrade kit

At 04:36 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I am trying to find a diagram of how to connect a Mc5 master with a 

mc-4 slave. The slave has two holes but the master only has one.

   Can someone expain or show picture of correct connections?

   I assume that top of slave goes to resevoir and bottom goes to T 

 on master then to the brake.

   Help

burbby

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Millsap, TX

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: Matco brake installation

I'm not sure what your looking for but try this address:



http://matco.veracart.com/pdf/mastercylinder21a.pdf



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		   From: mosquito56 <mosquito-56(at)HOTMAIL.COM>

 Subject: Re: Matco brake installation

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 6:36 PM

 

 "mosquito56" <mosquito-56(at)hotmail.com>

 

 I am trying to find a diagram of how to connect a Mc5

 master with a mc-4 slave. The slave has two holes but the

 master only has one. 

   Can someone expain or show picture of correct

 connections?

   I assume that top of slave goes to resevoir and

 bottom goes to T on master then to the brake. 

   Help

 

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 Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx

   Apologies if I seem antagonistic.

   I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions

 between individuals for assistance in this thing we call

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