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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna  other than on top of the fuselage.

  

 I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top  longeron meets the rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion  clamp.

  

 Other ideas?

  

 Thanks

  

 Dick Sipp

 40065

10flyer(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

I put my ELT on the aft deck between the trim  cables after I saw Vans' there. I have the antenna attached to the last bulkhead  of the tailcone where the top skin ends, facing aft and protruding under the  fiberglass intersection fairing. Works great, lasts a long time. Mark(40016)  50hrs

jesse(at)itecusa.org
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

We have done this and I think a lot of others also, because we got the idea from Randy.  We mounted it on the tail under the fairing (the ELT, that is), and mounted the antenna in the rear bulkhead that the aft most tailcone top skin rivets to at the back.  The antenna then is completely hidden by the fairing and invisible.  Also, if the plan crashes, the tail is most often the part that is left in tact from what I have heard, so it will do its job better.  

     

Jesse Saint  

I-TEC, Inc.  

jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)  

www.itecusa.org  

   

I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May.  You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here.  Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp

 Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:58 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: ELT Antenna  

  

     

Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on top of the fuselage.  

    

   

    

I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top longeron meets the rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.  

    

   

    

Other ideas?  

    

   

    

Thanks  

    

   

    

Dick Sipp  

    

40065

dmasys(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

I have mine mounted horizontally under the empennage fairing.  Lots of RV'ers do it that way.  



(See http://www.romeolima.com/RV8/Pictures/Mvc-447x.jpg )



Probably not ideal for signal propogation, but it turns out nothing is ideal, since any outside antenna has a chance of ending up under the plane and/or sheared off after the crash.



-Dan Masys

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		   From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>

 Date: 2006/04/08 Sat PM 11:57:42 EDT

 To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject: ELT Antenna

 

 Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on top of the fuselage.

 

 I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top longeron meets the rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.

 

 Other ideas?

 

 Thanks

 

 Dick Sipp

 40065

JSMcGrew(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: ELT Antenna

Dick,

  

 I put my ELT antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment. I  riveted a small .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum angle.  I attached the antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the inside of  the canopy top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp that  secures the top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the baggage  compartment bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.

  

   

 Jim "Scooter"  McGrew

40134



  

 Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US

From: "Richard Sipp"  <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>

Subject: ELT Antenna



Looking  for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on top

of  the fuselage.



I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the  top longeron meets the

rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a  cushion clamp.



Other ideas?



Thanks



Dick  Sipp

40065

jjessen(at)rcn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: ELT Antenna

Jim,

  

 Might you have a picture  or two of the install?  

  

 John Jessen

  

 do not  archive



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  JSMcGrew(at)aol.com

Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:41  AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: ELT  Antenna

 

 Dick,

  

 I put my ELT antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment. I  riveted a small .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum angle.  I attached the antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the inside of  the canopy top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp that  secures the top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the baggage  compartment bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.

  

   

 Jim "Scooter"  McGrew

40134



  

 Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US

From: "Richard Sipp"  <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>

Subject: ELT Antenna



Looking  for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on top

of  the fuselage.



I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the  top longeron meets the

rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a  cushion clamp.



Other ideas?



Thanks



Dick  Sipp

40065

JSMcGrew(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: ELT Antenna

Attached is a picture of the antenna install. I just have a digest  subscription, do pictures get forwarded out to the list?

  

 -Jim McGrew

 40134

  

 Time: 09:02:26 AM PST US

From: "John Jessen"  <jjessen(at)rcn.com>

Subject: RE: ELT  Antenna



Jim,



Might you have a picture or two of the install?   



John Jessen



do not archive



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From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]  On Behalf Of JSMcGrew(at)aol.com

Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:41  AM

Subject: ELT Antenna

Dick,



I put my ELT  antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment. I

riveted a small  .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum angle.

I attached the  antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the inside

of the canopy  top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp that

secures the  top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the baggage

compartment  bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.

Jim  "Scooter" McGrew

40134



Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US

From: "Richard  Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>

Subject: ELT  Antenna



Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna  other than on

top

of the fuselage.



I am thinking about mounting on  a corner plate where the top longeron meets

the

rear baggage bulkhead with  the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.



Other  ideas?



Thanks



Dick Sipp

40065

  

 Jim "Scooter"  McGrew

jsmcgrew(at)aol.com

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: ELT Antenna

Looks nice.  Anyone want to comment on how well the signal can get through the cabin lid?    

   

TDT  

40025  

Do not archive  

   

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew(at)aol.com

 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:49 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: ELT Antenna  

  

     

Attached is a picture of the antenna install. I just have a digest subscription, do pictures get forwarded out to the list?  

    

   

    

-Jim McGrew  

    

40134  

    

   

    

Time: 09:02:26 AM PST US

 From: "John Jessen" <jjessen(at)rcn.com>

 Subject: RE: ELT Antenna

 

 Jim,

 

 Might you have a picture or two of the install?  

 

 John Jessen

 

 do not archive

 

   _____  

 

 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew(at)aol.com

 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:41 AM

 Subject: ELT Antenna

 

 

 Dick,

 

 I put my ELT antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment. I

 riveted a small .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum angle.

 I attached the antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the inside

 of the canopy top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp that

 secures the top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the baggage

 compartment bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.

 

 

 Jim "Scooter" McGrew

 40134

 

 Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US

 From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net>

 Subject: ELT Antenna

 

 Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on

 top

 of the fuselage.

 

 I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top longeron meets

 the

 rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.

 

 Other ideas?

 

 Thanks

 

 Dick Sipp

 40065  

    

   

    

Jim "Scooter" McGrew

 jsmcgrew(at)aol.com

Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

As posted last night, I talked to Airteck about this and they  said there should be no problem with a vertically mounted antenna under  fiberglass.  They were concerned that a horizontal mounting under the  rudder, as many have done on RVs, would seriously degrade the  antenna.

  

 Dick

 40065

  

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

Interesting.  Who is Airteck?



Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?



TDT

40025

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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

Ah, sorry for the typo.  The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a 

Chelton Co.



www.artex.com



The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.



Dick Sipp

40065



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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

That's a good data point - thanks.  We are also planning a 406 MHz unit, so maybe we will copy your idea . . .

 

TDT

40025

do not archive



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Richard Sipp

Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 11:04 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: ELT Antenna






Ah, sorry for the typo.  The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a

Chelton Co.



www.artex.com



The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.



Dick Sipp

40065



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

Correction......  http://www.artex.NET



Tim

[quote] 

 

 

 

 Ah, sorry for the typo.  The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a

 Chelton Co.

 

 www.artex.com

 

 The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.

 

 Dick Sipp

 40065

 

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Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

You Chelton EFIS guys should have an Artex ELT and an S-Tec autopilot, since they all belong to the Chelton family!

 

TDT

40025

do not archive

 



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson

Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 12:21 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: ELT Antenna






Correction......  http://www.artex.NET



Tim

[quote]



 



 Ah, sorry for the typo.  The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a

 Chelton Co.



 www.artex.com



 The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.



 Dick Sipp

 40065



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wcurtis(at)core.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

[quote]You Chelton EFIS guys should have an Artex ELT and an  >S-Tec autopilot, since they all belong to the Chelton family!  Tim,  This is the second time you have made this statement, so I'm compelled to inquire.  All my research indicates that the Chelton Group (Artex, Chelton Avionics, Comant, NAT, etc) and Meggitt (UK) Ltd. (Meggitt Avionics, S-Tec, etc) are NOT the same company.  Also, D2A is NOT part of the Chelton group, they only have a dealer relationship with Chelton Flight Systems.  Can you point me to the relationship between Meggitt (S-Tec) and Chelton?  http://www.chelton.com/common/group_chart.asp  Chelton has the EFIS SV line of EFIS, and Meggit has the MAGIC line (http://www.magic.aero/) of EFIS.  William Curtis http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

Tdawson(at)avidyne.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: ELT Antenna

I may have been overcome by the fumes off the new office carpet when I wrote that . . .



TDT

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