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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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 Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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That's one reason the hinged ailerons have an avantage...You just pull
out the pins to remove the alerons...This was very useful when I had to
unzip the nose skin to pull out the LE tank to repair a leak.
Anyway, Personally I would leave a few clecoes in and assemble at the
airport.
Frank
Trying to get a feel from the group as to when they attached the
ailerons (flex hinge) to the wings. I'm at the point in the sequence
manual now where its trimmed, fitted and ready to attach, but given they
will be stored for a while, I'm wondering if I should not hold off until
later in the assembly. Just seems like attached there is a good chance
they'll get bent in storage. Anyone have thoughts one way or the
other, or did it one way, and wish they had not?
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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If you don't attach them now a good way to protect the exposed edges where
the "hinge" will go is the split, hollow foam tubes sold to insulate water
pipes.
-- Craig
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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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I think holding off is a good idea considering that you can cleco them in place anytime you need to. I'm reserving that same opotion for my elevator hinge. It's rivetted to the elevator but only clecoed to the stabilizer.
Ed Moody II
Rayne, LA
601XL wings
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Just seems like attached there is a good chance they'll get bent in storage. Anyone have thoughts one way or the other, or did it one way, and wish they had not?
I know in the end its probably "builder's choice", and I'm leaning towards holding off until there are critical measurements required.
Mitch Hodges
Powder Springs, GA
N601MH (601HDS)
Rudder Done
Ailerons Done
Right Wing 99.999% complete
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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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Mitch,
I left the ailerons on the ceiling storage racks until they were ready
to move to the airport. I made racks
that enabled storage of the wings without ailerons on long blocks of
foam for the leading edge etc.
When they were ready to go to the airport, I riveted the ailerons in
place on the rack and put it all
on the trailer. Worked very well and the racks will serve moving the
wings home again for paint.
See links below,
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/winghandling/full/overhead-wing-stowage.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/HScentersection/full/wg2rack2.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/tjh/hscentersection/full/zenith-to-airport.jpg
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Mitch Hodges wrote:
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Trying to get a feel from the group as to when they attached the ailerons (flex hinge) to the wings. I'm at the point in the sequence manual now where its trimmed, fitted and ready to attach, but given they will be stored for a while, I'm wondering if I should not hold off until later in the assembly. Just seems like attached there is a good chance they'll get bent in storage. Anyone have thoughts one way or the other, or did it one way, and wish they had not?
I know in the end its probably "builder's choice", and I'm leaning towards holding off until there are critical measurements required.
Mitch Hodges
Powder Springs, GA
N601MH (601HDS)
Rudder Done
Ailerons Done
Right Wing 99.999% complete
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Mitch Hodges
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Location: Powder Springs, GA
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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>That's one reason the hinged ailerons have an avantage...You just pull
out the pins to remove the alerons
I did think of that as I was trying to decide what to do. 8^)
Thanks to all that replied, as usual the common sense answer appears to be correct.
Also, (Craig) great idea on the pipe insulation "protectors". I just happen to have some in the "too valuable to throw away, no real need for them now" pile just looking for an excuse to be used.
Mitch Hodges
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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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| Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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I went ahead and riveted my hinge-less aileron before finishing the
wing. However, I did not rivet the flaps since the instructions said
to wait until fitted to the fuselage. I am building an XL so the
issues may be very different from the HDS.
If you want to store the wing after the aileron is installed you can
immobilize it with a couple of strips of wood laid across the hinge
and held in place with duct tape.
Good luck,
Paul
XL wings
| Quote: | >Trying to get a feel from the group as to when they attached the
>ailerons (flex hinge) to the wings. I'm at the point in the
>sequence manual now where its trimmed, fitted and ready to attach,
>but given they will be stored for a while, I'm wondering if I
>should not hold off until later in the assembly. Just seems like
>attached there is a good chance they'll get bent in
>storage. Anyone have thoughts one way or the other, or did it one
>way, and wish they had not?
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steveadams
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: Re: 601HDS: When to attach Ailerons |
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I would go ahead and install them for a couple of reasons. I think there is as much chance to damage them seperately as there is to damage them when they are on the wing. My philosophy when building was to get as much done at home as I could. I don't know what your setup at the airport will be like, but any tools I needed to work with at the airport I had to truck back and forth everytime I went, and it's really a drag when you get to the airport and realize you don't have something you need. Work also procedes slower at the airport because it is inconvenient. Taking your bird to the airport puts you into the "almost ready to fly" mental state, which tends to burn you out if you have 6 more months of work to do once you get it there.
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