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bw12345(at)sbcglobal.net
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 Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:00 pm Post subject: Fuel |
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I recently acquired a KitFox 4 classic.What is creamed tanks? Is their a problem I should be aware of?
My windshield will need replacing in the near future. Is this something I can fabricate out of Lexon or must it be factory formed.
BOB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: Fuel |
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Bob,
Congratulations on your acquirintg a Model IV. It is a great airplane.
The original factory tanks were not fuel proof. Kreem is a tank liner that
the factory chose to seal the inside of the tanks. It is a good product if
used according to the directions. Many early tanks came pre Kreemed from
the factory. Yours might be Kreemed. You can tell by looking in the filler
neck and if there is a thin whitish coating - it yellows a bit eith age, the
tank has been Kreemed.
Regarding the windsheild, the material is polycarbonate and it comes under
many brand names. Lexan is one. There is also an acrylic windsheld sold
as an aftermarket product. They are more difficult to install and cost and
weigh a lot more. If you decide to replace the windsheld, remove it by
drilling out the rivets or removing the screws and use it as a pattern for
cutting and drilling the new material. It is a fairly easy project.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Second Build Model IV-1200 R-912 UL
Starting Right Wing
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: Fuel |
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Kreemed tanks are fuel tanks that have been treated with a product called Kreeme in an attempt to protect the fiberglass from being consumed by ethanol in the fuel supply. Properly applied it seems to work. Some guys never have a problem with ethanol while others have had serious problems. Best bet is to avoid using ethanol fuel if possible, if not, keep a close eye on your tanks and check your filters/screens often for any yellow gunk building up on them. Another idea is not to leave ethanol fuel in your tanks for extended periods of time. Basically drain your tanks when you land if you expect to be away for more than a day.
You should be able to fabricate a new windshield from a piece of lexan… Use the old one for a pattern and try warming up the new one while bending it to your plane with hot towels. Never let gasoline touch lexan!
Noel
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Subject: Fuel
I recently acquired a KitFox 4 classic.What is creamed tanks? Is their a problem I should be aware of?
My windshield will need replacing in the near future. Is this something I can fabricate out of Lexon or must it be factory formed.
BOB
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: Fuel |
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Just a point of clarification, or question.....was Kreeme used to
resist ethanol, or to seal the fiberglas "hairs" and pinholes? My
tanks were factory-Kreemed in 1994 when first sold...I re-Kreemed
them in 2004 or 2005....and how long has ethanol been around? In our
mogas, not just in general.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 801.4 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs--199 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Noelloveys wrote:
| Quote: | Kreemed tanks are fuel tanks that have been treated with a product
called Kreeme in an attempt to protect the fiberglass from being
consumed by ethanol in the fuel supply. Properly applied it seems
to work. Some guys never have a problem with ethanol while others
have had serious problems. Best bet is to avoid using ethanol fuel
if possible, if not, keep a close eye on your tanks and check your
filters/screens often for any yellow gunk building up on them.
Another idea is not to leave ethanol fuel in your tanks for
extended periods of time. Basically drain your tanks when you land
if you expect to be away for more than a day.
You should be able to fabricate a new windshield from a piece of
lexan… Use the old one for a pattern and try warming up the new
one while bending it to your plane with hot towels. Never let
gasoline touch lexan!
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Rivard
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:28 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Fuel
I recently acquired a KitFox 4 classic.What is creamed tanks? Is
their a problem I should be aware of?
My windshield will need replacing in the near future. Is this
something I can fabricate out of Lexon or must it be factory formed.
BOB
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paul perry
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| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Fuel |
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Lynn, from what I've read and I think the point you are making, is that the Kreem was used to seal the fiberglass tanks. If my memory serves correctly I don't think ethanol was considered a problem in the mid to late 90's as I believe auto gas could be bought pretty much anywhere without it. I do believe that the Kreem product available today is not affected by fuel containing 10% ethanol and maybe has never been. Again, others may be more informed than me as much of what I have learned has been from those posting on this forum.
Paul Perry
KF IV speedster 912UL
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