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henry.voris
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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Location: Pueo Field, Kula, Maui
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 Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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25oct09
Kolbsters,
For the past year and a half I've been stuck on Oahu. Back on Maui my poor FireFly has been sitting in a field in the Hawaiian Home Lands. She was folded, on her trailer and covered with tarps. I placed desiccants in the intake and exhaust. But it's still going to be a job to get her airworthy again.
At the top of the list is to repair an 11" tear on the top of the port wing. I have never worked with fabric. I tried to buy the Poly Fiber practice kit because (besides needing to practice), I figured it would have all the supplies needed to patch the wing. All the suppliers (the usual suspects) I contacted required $300+ to cover the HAZ-MAT for the flight to paradise. I called Poly-Fiber and they said they didn't have a distributor in Hawaii.
Luckily (?), I inherited the remains of the supplies used to cover the plane in 1997...
There is a jar marked Poly-Tack. It's slow moving but crystal clear, so I figure a little MEK will loosen it up and it will be OK...
I have a small can of Poly-Brush that feels almost full. Also, there is a half full large can of Poly-Spray. Both Poly-Brush and Poly-Spray require Poly-Reducer... I have no Poly-Fiber Reducer...
Question number 1... Is there a chemical, that I can obtain locally (Hawaii), that can be substituted for the Poly-Fiber Reducer?
For color, there are two small cans of Poly-Tone, about a quarter full. I read that it may be reduced with MEK... No problem.
There is plenty of Poly-Fiber 1.6 oz. fabric to make the patch. But I have no tape.
Question number 2... May I cut my own tape from the 1.6 oz. Poly-Fiber fabric?
Any information or hints on this subject would be most appreciated. Thanks, ahead of time...
Not finding what you want, living out of catalogs, making do and finding substitutes is all part of living at the far end of the technical food chain...
Aloha
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beauford
Joined: 25 Apr 2007
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Location: Brandon, FL
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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Brother Voris:
Do not know if you can "substitute" anything else for poly tone reducer... but
here is what is in the
MSDS for the reducer...
Toluene (51.29% by weight)
Methyl Ethyl Ketone (2.84%)
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone (19.93%)
Methy n-Amyl Ketone (17.19%)
Ethyl 3-Ethoxypropionate (10.74%)
I doubt you'll be able to find all of this at Ace Hardware...
Good luck.
..worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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All those various ketones are to set the evaporation stages. Any
single one would do, depending upon ambient temp.
Toluene is slow.
Some hobby shops sell stits products.
If you are shooting color on a small area, spray can vinyl paints work
ok. Rustoleum and Plasti-Kote are two.
I have used Plasti-Kote (white) on mine over fabric with good results.
BB
On 28, Oct 2009, at 9:17 AM, Beauford T wrote:
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Brother Voris:
Do not know if you can "substitute" anything else for poly tone
reducer... but
here is what is in the
MSDS for the reducer...
Toluene (51.29% by weight)
Methyl Ethyl Ketone (2.84%)
Methyl Isobutyl Ketone (19.93%)
Methy n-Amyl Ketone (17.19%)
Ethyl 3-Ethoxypropionate (10.74%)
I doubt you'll be able to find all of this at Ace Hardware...
Good luck.
...worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Dana
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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At 09:17 AM 10/28/2009, Beauford T wrote:
| Quote: | Do not know if you can "substitute" anything else for poly tone reducer...
but
here is what is in the
MSDS for the reducer...
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I just used straight MEK (from the local hardware store) to thin the
Poly-Spray and Poly-Tone for spraying on small repair jobs... worked fine.
-Dana
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elleryweld(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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Real Lacquer Thinner works well with polyfiber system substitute for the Poly-Fiber Reducer if you have pinking shears you can cut finishing tapes out of your fabric you have
Ellery in Maine
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henry.voris
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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Location: Pueo Field, Kula, Maui
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Poly-Fiber Reducer substitute? |
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29oct09
Thanks Guys...
I heard from David Starbuck (some of you know him from his days at Kolb), he also thinks that lacquer thinner should work.
Got my pinking shears... On-ward & up-ward.
Ya gotta love this list...
Aloha
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