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karelvranken9(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 11/13/09

Frans,

 With such a partner you are making me jealous. And with horses and cats looking at you while working, that can make you proud. Congratulations anyway for the beautiful bird.

 Karel Vranken.

 2009/11/14 Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)>

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                    Total Messages Posted Fri 11/13/09: 22

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    1. 01:03 AM - Mode S transponders  (David Corbett)

    2. 02:33 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Frans Veldman)

    3. 03:34 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Brian Davies)

     4. 03:52 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Frans Veldman)

    5. 04:24 AM - PH-DIY  (Frans Veldman)

    6. 04:34 AM - does rotax need egt?  (Remi Guerner)

    7. 05:58 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Brian Davies)

     8. 06:02 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Brian Davies)

    9. 06:15 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Frans Veldman)

   10. 06:16 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Frans Veldman)

   11. 06:45 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Robert C Harrison)

   12. 06:45 AM - Re: Mode S transponders  (Robert C Harrison)

    13. 06:59 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Karl Heindl)

   14. 08:04 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (rampil)

   15. 08:19 AM - Re: does rotax need egt?  (rampil)

   16. 09:48 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Graham Singleton)

   17. 10:09 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Peter Zutrauen)

    18. 10:25 AM - doctors and Europas fun  (David Joyce)

   19. 10:33 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Frans Veldman)

   20. 10:46 AM - Re: PH-DIY  (Frans Veldman)

   21. 12:32 PM - a very pretty bird  (Fred Klein)

   22. 04:59 PM - Re: PH-DIY  (Kingsley Hurst)

________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________

Time: 01:03:28 AM PST US

Subject: Europa-List: Mode S transponders

From: "David Corbett" <DCorbett(at)corbettfarms.co.uk (DCorbett(at)corbettfarms.co.uk)>

Please could our friends in the Netherlands give us (in UK) an update as

to whether aircraft flying below 1200 ft under the Amsterdam TMA are

still being required to turn their Mode S transponders off whilst in the

 relevant airspace? This request is on behalf of the UK General Aviation

Safety Council.

Many thanks,

David

G-BZAM

________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________

Time: 02:33:19 AM PST US

From: Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl (frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl)>

Subject: Re: Mode S transponders

David Corbett wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Please could our friends in the Netherlands give us (in UK) an update as

 > to whether aircraft flying below 1200 ft under the Amsterdam TMA are

 	  Quote: 	
		   still being required to turn their Mode S transponders off whilst in the

 relevant airspace? This request is on behalf of the UK General Aviation

 > Safety Council.

Yes, this is still the case. 

And yes, it is still mandatory for us to carry a mode-S transponder on

board. 

I have hold it off as long as possible, but I just bought an expensive

 mode-S transponder which I have to turn off over half the country.

I also had to buy an expensive 406 MHz ELT (PLB is not allowed as an

alternative), mandatory if you want to cross the boarder, although the

countries around us don't require it. The ELT is only mandatory for the

 split second we are actually crossing the boarder, we don't need it

before reaching the boarder, and not after we have passed it.

Why we need it is a mystery, in this heavily populated country it is

impossible to crash your airplane without numerous people noticing it

 and complaining about the damage it caused on their property.

Oh wait, we also have a lot of water around us! Too bad then that we

have to install a fixed ELT, with a mandatory switch on the instrument

panel and associated wiring, making it impossible to remove the ELT in a

 hurry, so to guarantee that it will sink together with the airplane and

beep its silly signals to the fishes rather than to the satellites.

Well, there is also a good side to this country: Today I received the

 first bunch of official documents for my airplane, never having had an

inspector nor a certified mechanic even in the neighbourhood of my

airplane. 

Big grin day is getting close. 

Frans

 ________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________

Time: 03:34:06 AM PST US

From: "Brian Davies" <bdavies(at)dircon.co.uk (bdavies(at)dircon.co.uk)>

 Subject: RE: Mode S transponders

I suspect we will disagree on this Frans, but I think having an inspector

look at my aircraft is a good thing, rather than an imposition.  We are all

human and human beings are error prone.  A second pair of eyes is a valuable

 contribution to a safe first flight.  Not too late to reconsider!

Regards

Brian Davies

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frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 11/13/09

Karel Vranken wrote:

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		   With such a partner you are making me jealous.


	


I think it is indeed sad that many of you have a partner who is not

involved with flying or building. It is great to make plans for travels

together and to build an airplane for that together. On the other hand,

I have to sit in the passenger seat half of the flying time...



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		   And with horses and cats

 looking at you while working, that can make you proud.


	


Oh, and don't forget the owls, often demonstrating excellent landing

flares, and superb L/D ratio's while we were working in the late

evening. We've had quite some spectators. 



Thanks,

Frans

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