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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: wing attachment Reply with quote

I have a Kitfox one with two modifications. How can I replace the piece
of metal that reinforces two bolts that are used when you fold the
wings out at the leading edge? They look like they have four rivets
each. How can I get to them? On one side is a wing tank and the other
has a storage compartment. The metal pieces are broken on one side and
bent inward on the other side. Do I need to purchase these metal
pieces or can they be fabricated? What gage of metal is used and how
can they be shaped?

Jerry Novak
Pulaski, WI


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: wing attachment Reply with quote

I'd bet John McBean at Kitfox has some.

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I have a Kitfox one with two modifications. How can I replace the piece of metal that reinforces two bolts that are used when you fold the wings out at the leading edge? They look like they have four rivets each. How can I get to them? On one side is a wing tank and the other has a storage compartment. The metal pieces are broken on one side and bent inward on the other side. Do I need to purchase these metal pieces or can they be fabricated? What gage of metal is used and how can they be shaped?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: wing attachment Reply with quote

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I have a Kitfox one with two modifications. How can I replace the piece
of metal that reinforces two bolts that are used when you fold the
wings out at the leading edge? They look like they have four rivets
each. How can I get to them? On one side is a wing tank and the other
has a storage compartment. The metal pieces are broken on one side and
bent inward on the other side. Do I need to purchase these metal
pieces or can they be fabricated? What gage of metal is used and how
can they be shaped?

Jerry Novak
Pulaski, WI


Jerry, I agree with the advice to contact Kitfox LLC. Those wing attach reinforcement pieces are curved to match the inside of the spar and are zinc coated. They come as rectangular pieces that you shape and drill the holes in.

The root rib needs to come off to remove the old and replace the new inserts. It looks like a daunting job but it can be done. Not too bad a job if you have experience building a wing. The epoxy will soften with heat from a heat gun.

[/b]You must not scratch the spar with any kind of metal scraping tool when removing the old epoxy. Some micro baloons are mixed in the new epoxy to prevent the dissimilar metals from touching. You need the instructions from kitfox LLC if you can't find someone with experience to coach you through it.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: wing attachment Reply with quote

I will try and find the supplier that I had bookmarked. I remember finding a source that had a round insert that had the tangs cut into it. Instead of just the two tangs that rivet inside, this was a round sleeve that went into the root end and was meant to repair ends that the holes had been wobbled out etc. Looked like a real slick way to replace the two separate tangs.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: wing attachment Reply with quote

Snake.
I think you are referring to Accipiter Aviation.  I have their catalog dated 1998.
Ph 303-828-4681  P.O. Box 505; Erie, Colorado 80516.
I hav'nt heard about them for quite a while.
The had some very interesting items for us builders, including  "spar mounting brackets"
they are stainless steel cylinders that slip into the spar tubes,
very nice but pricie $330.00.
Hope this helps.
 
Cecil in North Idaho
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I will try and find the supplier that I had bookmarked.  I remember finding a source that had a round insert that had the tangs cut into it.  Instead of just the two tangs that rivet inside, this was a round sleeve that went into the root end and was meant to repair ends that the holes had been wobbled out etc.  Looked like a real slick way to replace the two separate tangs.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: wing attachment Reply with quote

That could very well have been them, but I know I saw them online last year when I was searching for some other wing parts.

It would not be very hard to make the sleeves.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: wing attachment Reply with quote

I found the site I was thinking of, but it does not show the inserts anymore. You may be able to call them and they may still have the parts on the shelf. The website notes that they are looking for a buyer for their line of kitfox parts.

http://www.blueskyaviation.net/catalog.html


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: wing attachment Reply with quote

If I recall correctly, Accipitier Aviation had a name change, and stopped offering that part. After searching in the web, it seems like the company does not exist anymore.

José


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Snake.
I think you are referring to Accipiter Aviation. I have their catalog dated 1998.
Ph 303-828-4681 P.O. Box 505; Erie, Colorado 80516.
I hav'nt heard about them for quite a while.
The had some very interesting items for us builders, including "spar mounting brackets"
they are stainless steel cylinders that slip into the spar tubes,
very nice but pricie $330.00.
Hope this helps.

Cecil in North Idaho
Kitfox Md IV 582 C 1050



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I will try and find the supplier that I had bookmarked. I remember finding a source that had a round insert that had the tangs cut into it. Instead of just the two tangs that rivet inside, this was a round sleeve that went into the root end and was meant to repair ends that the holes had been wobbled out etc. Looked like a real slick way to replace the two separate tangs.

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